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vB.Org System
14 Oct 2009, 04:40
Some screenshots of the vBulletin 4.0 Suite have been released. You can see them here:
http://www.vbulletin.com/index.php?do=screenshots

More will be made available as time permits.


More... (http://www.vbulletin.com/forum/showthread.php?t=320208&goto=newpost)

mhackl
14 Oct 2009, 05:08
Can I just say that this looks fantastic! I love the style, it resembles what I'm building for a new site (but now my site will look like every other one).

It's about time that we step out of the tables.

Hasann
14 Oct 2009, 06:31
I don't like the new looking of vBulletin 4.0
seems like exactly wordpress..

Frank Sinatra
14 Oct 2009, 07:32
Really nice, clean and soft
I will be happy to renew the license :)

Attitude5ire
14 Oct 2009, 07:32
I have to agree with Hasann, the hype of vB4 has definitely reaped below par first impression. The style looks pale and the postbit very clattered. The worst is the logo i mean it looks like they' have gone retro with the logo. I really do hope vB4 has a better core and earns its points in performance.

Pete C
14 Oct 2009, 07:50
It looks like some kind of hybrid between Facebook & phpBB and imo it's horrible. I certainly won't "upgrade" to this. :down:

New Joe
14 Oct 2009, 08:23
It looks bad.
I will stick to what I have 3..8.4
vB always had a different look than other forums now it just looks the same as them.
Bad idea to make it look like it does.

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It looks like some kind of hybrid between Facebook & phpBB and imo it's horrible. I certainly won't "upgrade" to this. :down:
That is what i should have said, well said that man.
vB 4:down:

murekhalir
14 Oct 2009, 08:36
I can only say - pure awesome.

JohnBee
14 Oct 2009, 08:56
I don't like the look(to common) though I'm sure that's only cosmetic anyways so who cares... As long as the core improves as we don't loose any of the customization power in the process, I say bring it on!

RobbieZ
14 Oct 2009, 09:51
The point is the possibility to add new gadgets and mold it to your needs.

It looks like this because it is basic. The CSS can be tweaked to make it look how you want it to!

Paul M
14 Oct 2009, 10:26
They only posted a screenshot of the horizontal postbit (which I hate), there is also [still] the vertical legacy postbit.

mastertek2000
14 Oct 2009, 10:33
It looks like some kind of hybrid between Facebook & phpBB and imo it's horrible. I certainly won't "upgrade" to this. :down:

i agree hope it will be better then that when it comes out

Sid_pachi
14 Oct 2009, 10:42
Heavy Sigh!!!!!!

alimcm
14 Oct 2009, 11:10
It is a real tragedy..! looks woe full, terrible! :down:
I can't stand the look, as Hasann said It's really looks like Wordpress!
I hope VB staff do something and make its look better
and I hope the core and the engine do properly and has more options
...

By the way the price and the upgrade fees is not fair at all!
Just sooooo greedy... dudes ! vb should not get so greedy and mean !
NO need to become Bill Gates the second! ;)

ashley76
14 Oct 2009, 11:15
Looks really good to me. I use Wordpress as my homepage and this has lots of "WordPress" characteristics. Can't wait. Paid for now that I have seen at least how it "could" look...

meissenation
14 Oct 2009, 13:06
I haven't really been following the vb4 progress until I saw the screen shots and got the e-mail about pre-ordering until Oct 30th. Is it being released Oct 31? Anyone know the release date?

Brandon Sheley
14 Oct 2009, 13:26
I'm not impressed with the look of the CMS

fer_75
14 Oct 2009, 13:48
I really love it. Very curious about to see the new commercial skins. vb 4 rocks!

-=Leb=-
14 Oct 2009, 13:48
Looking forward to install it. I think you can costimize the view.

Llandy
14 Oct 2009, 13:55
Look's 'ok', I guess..
Gonna wait a week and see if i decide to upgrade or not.

Akademiks
14 Oct 2009, 14:21
hmmmmmm I dont like it that much either, nothing great, also the only good thing i saw was the profile page

angkor408
14 Oct 2009, 16:15
look nice. Since we are paying annual support every year, why VB charge for upgrade price? This suppose to be free. I'm just curios......

jalmz
14 Oct 2009, 16:32
im in Yahoo Webhosting.... huhuhu i love the vb 4.0... anyone knows how to transfer Yahoo! domain name hosting to Go daddy?

TNCclubman
14 Oct 2009, 16:34
vB 3.8 = windows XP
vB 4 = Vista.

lol

vividbreeze
14 Oct 2009, 18:03
i like it , keep up the good work!

combs
14 Oct 2009, 18:05
Wow..that is what I been waiting for? I like the blog/site type stuff. The member pages are OK..but the forum look itself is boring and bland and about 5 years ago. What a disappointment.

Darat
14 Oct 2009, 18:08
They only posted a screenshot of the horizontal postbit (which I hate), there is also [still] the vertical legacy postbit.

Thanks for that info - saved me posting a question about it!

BigBass
14 Oct 2009, 18:41
paying for something that isnt even released...

You guys need to start looking a little closer at the details

mhackl
14 Oct 2009, 18:59
I'm not sure how one can compare the 3.x base style to this and not think that it's a significant improvement. But really, who users the default style anyway?

Scovic
14 Oct 2009, 19:35
OMG!
vBulletin is now officially a wordpress/joomla hybrid, the only difference is that wordpress and joomla are free.
Plus....
How on earth have they the cheak to sell something that is not even out of alpha stage and may not be released for months and months.

This is going to lose vBulletin so many loyal users, I bet the old vBulletin team are laughing their heads off now!!!

dutchbb
14 Oct 2009, 20:58
I'm not impressed with the look of the CMS
I do not care about the "look" of a CMS. What I care about in a CMS is functionality, if it's easy to use, good coding (back & front), easy to update etc. The design in the templates can be done by any graphic designer, you do not need vbulletin for that. In fact, it's best if vbulletin keeps de default design as simple as possible (Google style) and then make it very easy to work with the xhtml and css in templates so customers can build their own layouts.

Linux123
14 Oct 2009, 21:09
Damn looks brilliant!

+buG
14 Oct 2009, 21:55
You guys know vBulletin has a custom template feature, right?

robdawg
14 Oct 2009, 23:26
The people complaining about the look and feel are hilarious. It is the default style! Don't be lazy and customize it! haha, thanks for the good laugh though.

I will be buying/installing.

Chuta
14 Oct 2009, 23:28
Really Nice...Profiles Look Like Facebook But The Design Its like an Exactly Copy of Joomla :S

Llandy
14 Oct 2009, 23:48
The people complaining about the look and feel are hilarious. It is the default style! Don't be lazy and customize it! haha, thanks for the good laugh though.

I will be buying/installing.

First impressions is everything, even if it is a "default" layout. So lol right back at ya.

maidos
15 Oct 2009, 00:27
think i just wait for 5.0
since the hole web 2.0 is soemthing new for the devs at vb and honestly i dont like it. Features are quite weak compares to other bulletinboard
not the worth for the 250 dollars upgrade for now
as the previous poster
4.0 is vista lol

jalmz
15 Oct 2009, 01:52
wordpress still the best...

hugh_
15 Oct 2009, 04:06
Jelsoft still don't get it, their suite needs a 'stream', a downloads tool and a decent picture album...

jambo_1969
15 Oct 2009, 06:08
Not overly impressed even if it is the default.

I use Joomla aside from my VB site, and the first thing I thought, was Joomla.

One question - most of us will have mods etc attached to our boards, and reading between the lines (correct me if I'm wrong), they are unlikely to work...given some of the addons are "critical" to my forum, are we going to have to wait until the coders translate them over ? Or, will they work on 4.0 ?

Not migrating until I know at least some of the core mods I require will work, or at any rate, have had access to a VB demo site running 4.0

TimberFloorAu
15 Oct 2009, 06:47
Looks good, but slightly confused.

As we have a license type that is renewed each year, presumably a Leased license...

What is the upgrade path for us, if we want the suite ?

It is all very confusing, but looks like real functionality, and eye candy could be the go :up:

Defkalion
15 Oct 2009, 08:20
Not overly impressed even if it is the default.

I use Joomla aside from my VB site, and the first thing I thought, was Joomla.

One question - most of us will have mods etc attached to our boards, and reading between the lines (correct me if I'm wrong), they are unlikely to work...given some of the addons are "critical" to my forum, are we going to have to wait until the coders translate them over ? Or, will they work on 4.0 ?

Not migrating until I know at least some of the core mods I require will work, or at any rate, have had access to a VB demo site running 4.0

No, custom modules will definately not work. We will have to wait for their authors to update/rewrite them.

moonbase
15 Oct 2009, 09:12
I think many questions can be answered by reading the following:


vBulletin 4 Series Development Update
The vBulletin 4 project is progressing quickly and we are in a position to share some further information about what to expect in our next new major version release.

In August, we announced a major overhaul of the code base. Rather than targeting all of these changes in a single, long-term release, we intend to accomplish all the planned improvements over a number of versions. In order to achieve this goal, the largest vBulletin development team ever assembled is now working within an Agile development process, allowing us to deliver new features into your hands faster.

Each incremental release in the vBulletin 4 series will include improvements in features, usability and architecture. Development efforts are prioritized towards those areas that can provide real, tangible benefits to our customers, at all times with an eye toward maintaining and enhancing the performance and reliability expected of a vBulletin product.

The goal of the vBulletin 4 series is to develop a modern, scalable application platform that will allow your communities to thrive.

Key features and improvements that will be included in the first vBulletin 4 release are:

* Cross-content search system providing a single interface to search across forum posts, blog entries and comments and other supported products
* Improved search performance
* A fresh design and layout making use of semantic markup and CSS styling
* An enhanced style and template system to enhance your ability to change the layout
* Controls to assist with the placement of advertising elements
* SEO features, including friendly URLs
* A centralized attachment system, allowing the sharing of attachments across products

Alongside significant strides forward within the vBulletin forum product, we are also producing a new content management system to facilitate the creation, editing and publishing of non-forum pages. Further details about CMS features, and how it will integrate with vBulletin will be posted in due course.

We are working hard and plan to have vBulletin 4.0 released in beta form in early Q2 of 2009.

I want to take this opportunity to thank you for your continuing support of vBulletin. We are really excited about version 4, and we're looking forward to bringing you further updates via general announcements and periodic development blog posts focusing on individual areas.

cosy
15 Oct 2009, 14:28
some ppl complain about shadows my first reaction was like " what shadows" and i had actually to stare a bit imo is not big deal

fer_75
15 Oct 2009, 17:58
I do not care about the "look" of a CMS. What I care about in a CMS is functionality, if it's easy to use, good coding (back & front), easy to update etc. The design in the templates can be done by any graphic designer, you do not need vbulletin for that. In fact, it's best if vbulletin keeps de default design as simple as possible (Google style) and then make it very easy to work with the xhtml and css in templates so customers can build their own layouts.

I totally agree with the comment above.

VB4 is the best CMS tool out there, I am really happy and I do not care about the Default boring template, it has been always boring. Guy have a look to the new features page, come on, it rocks !!!!

The only sad issue for me is that there is no an ONLINE DEMO yes, this is a bit frustrating for all of us.

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5 screenshoots are not enough, please provide online demo and you will see all of these guys loving it!

Contra Fates
15 Oct 2009, 20:04
I really don't like the look of VB4, but then again...when does the bare bones of any forum software look good? Vbulletin, wordpress, phpbb, IPBBoards, they're all ugly until skilled designers customize it and create attractive templates.

I'm sure I'll be upgrading to VB4, but it's a question of 'when.' I'm sure it'll take some time for designers and coders to adjust to VB4's structure, let alone take some time for there to be mods released for it.

I'm excited about the new features, but I'm not excited at all about the design and lack of modifications. I'll upgrade once there are good skins and mods available.

Marco van Herwaarden
16 Oct 2009, 12:37
Closed thread as per Discussions on vBulletin 4 and licensing (http://www.vbulletin.org/forum/showthread.php?t=225368).