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Old 21 Apr 2008, 09:08
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"THIEVES AMONG US" He Stole my Logo!

Ok, I've been here a little more than year, and I'm not asking for special treatment, just for crude justice... like everybody I've invested a lot of hours on a project, no mentioning the $$$ that my Mom can happily use.
So even I'm feeling disappointed to ask for help here since every effort to act together got ripped by many egos and interpretations.

This Guy stole my Logo! as simple like that! no honor involved, no respect for the regular user...



http://www.xboxliveclans.com/introdu...post-here.html

I bought my domain from a guy who owned for $200 usd based on the design of the logo, I sent to the Library of the Congress my copyright application and paid $60 dlls, I posted on my private blog to prove ownership with date: January 17, 2006, I created the Logo with my Photoshop Skills, I registered a Corporation in Nevada and make the logo be printed on the Seal, the Minutes and even on my checks, got the .PSDs, the .AIs and I'm paying some highly priced artist to brand all my site...

So I'm asking you HONESTLY what can be done? [yes I will contact the guy and find him since we both live in CA] how can that behavior be corrected?
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Old 21 Apr 2008, 09:27
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Long story short: contact the guy

Don't really understand the need to create this long thread if you have not even tried that yet.
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Old 21 Apr 2008, 09:32
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first to save your the headache, he stole your logo but i'd imagine he took it because you're using it as avatar and he may not even realize its copyrighted work.

Secondly you never should have paid for a copyright application on an image. So many other ways to prove you own it.

3rd. You know who this member is here, why not attempt to PM him and solve this without all the noise. I can tell you know you're going to spend a small fortune and more then its worth trying to get a court room battle going.

4. IF all else fails, file a DMCA formal complaint with his host, There is no need to be hostile about it unless he refuses to remove it. You'll need to make sure your DMCA notice is in a standard DMCA notice format (search google for the DMCA template).
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Old 21 Apr 2008, 09:34
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Relax Josh, relax...
Yes I did... his name *** Name removed, no posting of personal identification allowed ***.
When your Copyright and someone infringe it, you have to send a 'Cease & Decease Letter' I've done it for friends.
2nd Marco, from person to person, Jelsoft is a LLC, I'm a Corp, you spent ALOT of hours working for free and this guy steals under our noses...
So as I said there's values that must be protected, and it happened here.
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Old 21 Apr 2008, 09:46
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Is that his avatar or site logo? If it's an AV, who cares....
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Old 21 Apr 2008, 10:04
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Is that his avatar or site logo? If it's an AV, who cares....
Hohoho... you're funny... I'm not just bought a license, a .cc or domain-something-something.net, I've been working on this for quite some time, I've invested more than 2,500 usd.
We are in the same team [I suppose] I've not to be arguing over the word S-T-O-L-E.

Well Marco, you're seated at your computer I'm seated at mine, so 'practically' we are sitting at each other discussing a problem that happened as adults. Pst Pst, I've been robbed here.
Before we talk about International laws, courtrooms, lawyers I noticed that we don't disagreed on the crime

P.S. Aaauch is like the 'Laws of Life'... if a kid see their Mommy & Daddy argue over the rules, he/she will understand that there's no ground for discipline.
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Old 21 Apr 2008, 12:31
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i HATE being bothered in a PM from someone who i know nothing, just because he want a voice...

i do not care at all if your supposed logo is stolen and used somewhere else... this logo is not copyrighted for one reason, this is a generic sign. call Intel to not use it anymore on their computers, and you will have better results.

i don't care if you are a corp, a naked chick or my mother, act like an adult.

Marco, again, i can't report PMs.. lol
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Old 21 Apr 2008, 15:35
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Oh my friend Nexialys when I go to live to Quebec this summer, remember me to take a bottle of wine for you
'Generic Sign' yes I dealt with that with the 'experts', in fact we had a little back and forward with the LOC, but finally got my certificate that you can double check in Copyright.org site

As I thought every call to act together is teared apart by ego and interpretation...

*Me-Thinking: I didn't know that LCD radiation kills testosterone
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Old 21 Apr 2008, 15:39
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hum, Josh, you plan coming here this summer ?!... ah come on, no wine, i hate that... if you want to poison me for my reply, do not think it will work... btw, do not take it too personally, i'm never giving personal opinions, this is global... you need to kick butts or keep silence... you decided to kick butts, so i don't know why you ask here about it... you're old enough (i hope your postcount does not represent your age.. lol)

though i would have chosen a different type of logo that would not lead to misinterpretation...

and i'm friend to nobody... ask Marco... pfft rofl
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Old 21 Apr 2008, 15:57
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Lets go back to the basics, I know that the numbness of the monitor differs from the real life:
1. I was browsing threads to help where I could.
2. I found that copy of my logo by mistake: Mathematically talking tell me the odds.
3. I pointed with proof to the thief
4. everything evolved in 'should be-maybe'

I can give hundreds of samples why Stealing is bad, but the point is, can you allow such behavior on your 'Watch'?

P.S. Tell Veoh the same about their Logo http://appserver.veoh.com/static/mar...h_Logo1600.jpg
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Old 21 Apr 2008, 16:13
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I think I agree with another user that this thread is a bit premature if you haven't even contacted the guy. He most likely has no clue that you have a copyright on it and just thought it was cool to use.



I hate Cease and Desist letters. At least be nice when you write it. I've gotten some where the people are jerks and it doesn't make me feel like doing what they want.
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Old 21 Apr 2008, 16:44
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Thanks Lynne, I discovered the Logo last night when I was checking some code and answering some threads.
The point isn't if there's wrongdoing or not, THERE IS. and everybody here face tough problems on the daily basis, but once we sit at the computer reality got somehow distorted.
We know I can win this one outside, my point is why Jelsoft software allows steal of private property, why the Rank Officers allow it, what is the protection criteria between copyright Artwork & Code, and how big must be the crime to apply norms and principles?

P.S. Yes contacted the guy, got his info, but once again, 'it happened in your house'
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Old 21 Apr 2008, 16:54
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Dude relax, again its not jelsofts responsibility to monitor whats on everyones site. Jelfsoft doesn't know or care if you have a copyright for it, and i can guarantee that none of the staff really care either other then the fact this thread is taking up their space
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Old 21 Apr 2008, 17:05
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Dude relax, again its not jelsofts responsibility to monitor whats on everyones site. Jelfsoft doesn't know or care if you have a copyright for it, and i can guarantee that none of the staff really care either other then the fact this thread is taking up their space
In which bar did u finish law school?
I'm not saying Jelsoft is responsable, his site is with GoDaddy, Inc. he recieve money from Google, Inc. he paid a License to Jelsoft, LLC and:

See THIS?
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Old 21 Apr 2008, 17:10
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my point is why Jelsoft software allows steal of private property, why the Rank Officers allow it,
Sounds an awful lot like your passing some blame. Again its a logo, yes i realize its copyrighted, but again you are going about this 85% wrong.
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