[socialteenz]

Originally Posted by BirdOPrey5

There is NEVER going to be "Evidence" - Evidence must be collected using proper procedures so it can't be tampered with. Anyone can write out a message and claim it is from a PM or email or IM log- it means NOTHING. That's the problem- we don't ever get "evidence" all we get is one side's accusations and have no power to investigate. Truthfully I have no desire to investigate either, I'd rather be working on my own forum or making mods then wasting time investigating a deal where someone shouldn't have paid up front in the first place.

I hope in some cases, you go can go through the pm exchanged over here. New people should be appointed for that post, it hardly takes few hours to investigate them. The best option would be to remove the request for paid section if you are not ready to spend time & this is not the first time such things are happening here.

[RSNF]

You're right I did praise this guy in my board of the month thread........Because technically I did not get scammed by him as I paid after the work was done. Am I griping about my site here? No not at all it is what it is. What I have a problem with is The designer completely changed the way he did business by now making the forum owner pay up front. So here I praised him people asked me how he was I said he did a good job sometimes can be hard to get a hold of but otherwise my site was proof he does have some skills. What I did not expect was to get private messages by some people saying he took the money and ran and left them with either an unfinished product or no product at all? I recommended the clown to some of these people so ultimately now I look like a fool. Clearly you can see my site eventually got completed.........But clearly you can also see others never did? And for the record I called Mark "The designer he answered and I asked him what was going on.............Answer was dealing with personal issues" That's crap in my opinion!

[kh99]

Originally Posted by socialteenz

The best option would be to remove the request for paid section if you are not ready to spend time & this is not the first time such things are happening here.

I disagree. The notice clearly says you're using the forum at your own risk. I don't see the point of taking it away from the people who use it successfully just because the site can't be responsible for scammers.

[BirdOPrey5]

Originally Posted by New Joe

So what should the average guy do when a Skin guy says he won't start the Skin without money up front?

Either don't do the deal or don't give them more money then you would risk gambling because that is what you are doing, gambling.

No one is forcing you to use a particular designer or even a custom designer at all.

[kh99]

There are other sites that handle these things. I know of guru.com, but I'm sure there are others who have a service where they hold the money in escrow and even provide dispute resolution. You could always ask someone here that you're thinking of hiring to agree to be paid through a site like that.

[Lynne]

Just a warning guys... but please do not turn this thread into personal attacks. They will get removed.

[JacquiiDesigns]

Originally Posted by Lynne

Just a warning guys... but please do not turn this thread into personal attacks. They will get removed.

Lynne. I seriously thought my post was an addition to the thread. Not a detriment.
Anyway - whatever... I've noted your response ==> Apologies.

J.

[Sage Knight]

I shouldn't be posting this but the aforementioned themer is back and supporting his premium skins he released on Theme Forest again. Most likely life happened which might have caused the lack of support .

[New Joe]

Yes they did disappear for while.

@ Lynne, I wasn't having a personal attack, but if such a scammer decides to use another nic to try to carry on scamming, surly it's good for people to know this.
So they don't get scammed by the same guy.