PDA

View Full Version : Whats with JumpDs mods!


DrewM
14 May 2006, 19:51
I was lookind at JumpDs sig. and clicked on a link for a mod and it gave me no permission message is there a reson or some thing?

Paul M
14 May 2006, 19:56
http://www.vbulletin.org/forum/showpost.php?p=973808

DrewM
14 May 2006, 20:28
http://www.vbulletin.org/forum/showpost.php?p=973808
thanks I guess.

Ntfu2
14 May 2006, 20:28
another one down.

Looks like i'm better start to learn coding faster then i wanted to :(

Tralala
14 May 2006, 20:36
At first just the attachments were removed, now I see the entire threads are gone too? There was excellent information in all of those pages.

(And because of this removal, they no longer appear in my "Installed Hacks" list either.)

I have every one of JumpD's hacks installed, each was excellent and truly helped define my forum's community. His hacks inspired me and interaction with JumpD helped me learn how to code for myself.

This is a very sad day for vBulletin.org. :(

Paul M
14 May 2006, 20:39
Maybe the staff removed the threads because they no longer had valid files ?

Zachery
14 May 2006, 20:41
JumpD removed his files from all of his post sand I believe he may have requested a removal.

Tralala
14 May 2006, 20:57
Maybe the staff removed the threads because they no longer had valid files ?

I'd hope that wasn't the case, since the support threads had hundreds (literally) of pages of excellent information. Lots of folks who already have his
stellar hacks installed could've used that information. And now it's all gone.

JumpD removed his files from all of his post sand I believe he may have requested a removal.

If JumpD requested the threads be removed, that's a different story.

It'd be nice if the volunteers who run this place did whatever they could to make coders like JumpD (the true lifeblood of this community, IMHO) feel comfortable. As an active user and new coder, I know I'll be going whereever there's an atmosphere that makes guys like JumpD feel welcome and appreciated.

Because that's where all the good hacks and learning will be.



I'm tired of dead threads that keep getting bumped by users, wondering where the original coder has gone. Not even realizing the coder hasn't logged on in months. Complaining and begging for someone/anyone to fix their issue or fulfill their request. It's depressing, quite frankly, and I think I'm starting to see why it's so common.

Seiken
14 May 2006, 21:19
:sob: I knew him for his avatar and it fit his name well

smacklan
14 May 2006, 21:21
I don't use a whole lot of mods on my site mainly because it's a business site and strictly for communicating with the customers. I have, however, used many on boards in the past and found when I couldn't get a hack to work right, I searched, studied and played around with it until I found the fix on my own. I don't really expect support for something that was free. I think alot of the complaining that is going on around here is much to do about nothing, but I haven't walked in others shoes so who am I to say. It just seems to me rather petty and childish...I wouldn't do business with alot of these people if they can't control their emotions...just my .02 ;)

Oblivion Knight
14 May 2006, 21:34
I'd hope that wasn't the case, since the support threads had hundreds (literally) of pages of excellent information. Lots of folks who already have his stellar hacks installed could've used that information. And now it's all gone.It is vbulletin.org policy not to have a release thread with no modification files in the release forums after a certain length of time. Otherwise, the thread would be continually bumped by users asking what happened to the release and/or coder, and the forum would be much harder to navigate through with many "dead releases".


It'd be nice if the volunteers who run this place did whatever they could to make coders like JumpD (the true lifeblood of this community, IMHO) feel comfortable. As an active user and new coder, I know I'll be going whereever there's an atmosphere that makes guys like JumpD feel welcome and appreciated.We try our best.. However, after recent events certain things will be reviewed.

I cannot comment too much on this for obvious reasons..


I'm tired of dead threads that keep getting bumped by users, wondering where the original coder has gone. Not even realizing the coder hasn't logged on in months. Complaining and begging for someone/anyone to fix their issue or fulfill their request. It's depressing, quite frankly, and I think I'm starting to see why it's so common.This is pretty much the main reason why the policy on "dead releases" exists.

There are innevitably going to be unsupported releases with the files still present that result in the same scenario, and hopefully we as a community can take a look at this and change things for the better.

Kihon Kata
14 May 2006, 22:19
Nooooooooooooooooooooooooo, jesus! This is frickin BS. Dangit. JumpD has helped me so much, you wouldn't even know. Someone better get this undercontrol....please?

Ntfu2
14 May 2006, 22:38
Its out of control, sadly enough its a cycle people come, people go. Everyone will just have to live with it and move on. Blasting the staff telling them they arent helping the situation is useless, as it doesnt help the situation at all either. I'd imagine the only way anything will be able to get done is go straight to vBulletin, but even then thats probably not going to do much good :-\

Roms
14 May 2006, 22:39
He made some of my Favorite Mods. :(

Mr Chad
14 May 2006, 22:48
I apologize for any blatant insignificance on my part. I’m quite confident, as was clearly stated by those that guide this community, that I will be replaced quickly by many more capable coders to follow.

Did someone really say that?

If so why do i release...

Also i have noticed that there is like 1 hack released everyday now (if its a good day)... When it used to be 6+ a day.

Kihon Kata
14 May 2006, 22:53
I wasn't blasting, only crying :/

Blasting the staff telling them they arent helping the situation is useless, as it doesnt help the situation at all either.

Ntfu2
14 May 2006, 23:08
I know, i wasnt saying anyone in particular. but if you read some of these posts some people are making its rather apparent. Sorry if you thought it was at you

Kihon Kata
14 May 2006, 23:27
NP, ;)

I know, i wasnt saying anyone in particular. but if you read some of these posts some people are making its rather apparent. Sorry if you thought it was at you

Tralala
15 May 2006, 02:17
It is vbulletin.org policy not to have a release thread with no modification files in the release forums after a certain length of time.

Yeah? What length of time is that, then? I sure as hell hope its longer than 12 freakin' hours. In fact, I'm sure it is, because I've seen forgotten hacks fester for weeks here, attachments removed, naive newbies wondering WTF is going on.

My point is, JumpD did not request that these release threads be taken down. He removed the attachments while he took a breather, with the explanation linked above.

A mod then took it upon himself to remove the threads in the meantime. For what? A some show of oneupmanship? This accomplishes nothing to quell the tension around here. In fact, it reinforces it. Some of the mods are making this personal.

I think this is the sort of behavior that is frustrating users and coders alike.

kira
15 May 2006, 02:20
It is vbulletin.org policy not to have a release thread with no modification files in the release forums after a certain length of time.

How long is "after a certain length of time"? Apparently, a matter of hours?

Otherwise, the thread would be continually bumped by users asking what happened to the release and/or coder, and the forum would be much harder to navigate through with many "dead releases".

Uh, so why not just lock the threads/archive 'em?

The behavior and attitudes on both sides of this issue are disgraceful. So a talented coder gets pissed off at one frustrated staffer's tactless comment and retaliates by harming the entire community, including people who have thanked and supported him. Then the mods immediately yank his threads to eliminate all traces of the guy, even though the very software they're supporting includes a very easy solution to prevent the terrible "bumping" feature.

Is this Jelsoft or Junior High? C'mon guys, you're all better than this bushwah.

Code Monkey
15 May 2006, 02:27
This pretty much proves all points on what they think of individual coders. They were deleted to ensure that I could not change my mind and put them back up. They can make mistakes or make stupid or rude comments and we are expected to get over it. We do anything and it's existance removal time. vBORG, assimilated or eliminated.

Too bad all those abandoned hacks, that still have a crapy useless zip file, are getting bumped everyday. Maybe those should be eliminated.

kurtbarker
15 May 2006, 02:28
yeah, I see no problem with just locking his threads... the information in there is very useful to the people that already have the mods installed...

Tony G
15 May 2006, 02:30
Yeah? What length of time is that, then? I sure as hell hope its longer than 12 freakin' hours. In fact, I'm sure it is, because I've seen forgotten hacks fester for weeks here, attachments removed, naive newbies wondering WTF is going on.

My point is, JumpD did not request that these release threads be taken down. He removed the attachments while he took a breather, with the explanation linked above.

A mod then took it upon himself to remove the threads in the meantime. For what? A some show of oneupmanship? This accomplishes nothing to quell the tension around here. In fact, it reinforces it. Some of the mods are making this personal.

I think this is the sort of behavior that is frustrating users and coders alike.
He removed the attachments because he couldn't remove the threads. Very simple, he didn't have the rights to. And saying he's taking a "breather" is a assumption on your part. Who knows if he's coming back? You don't. I don't. So you can't say its just a breather.

Anyway, for your information as you seem pretty angry about this, the threads are not completly gone. If he decides to come back, we would be able to re-instate those threads if we decided to do so.

There's nothing left to add to this thread so I'm closing it. If you have any further queries please PM me. :)

Marco van Herwaarden
15 May 2006, 07:19
I will still give a short comment on this since i was the Staff member that happened to remove them.

It has always been vBulletin.org policy to remove threads if the hack is withdrawn. If no file is attached it is not considered to be an active hack. Until now i never saw anybody complaining about that.

We never hard delete any thread, and if an author wants to publish his hack again, all he needs to do is ask for it to be restored and add the hack file again. Again this is nothing new and has always happened.

Since JumpD himself announced that he would withdraw his hacks, the policy was followd as usual.

PS I know that there are more threads that don't contain the hack files anymore, and they will be handled if spotted by staff or reported by a member.