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bigmonay2k
15 Jun 2006, 02:25
:cry: :angry: :(
What happened to the Plugin forum??

Dan
15 Jun 2006, 02:33
Clicky (http://www.vbulletin.org/forum/modifications.php)

Kirk Y
15 Jun 2006, 03:03
I liked all the hacks sorted into Plugins, Extensions, etc.

BamaStangGuy
15 Jun 2006, 06:56
Wow I am REALLY not liking this new database system at all. I would much rather have the old way back if this is how it was planned to be :(

I really do not like the drop down prefix stuff either. I was hoping that would change back to the way before 3.5 where it was just seperate forums for the different pages that the hack modified :( It is not very efficent browsing through all of the hacks this way.

Bulent Tekcan
15 Jun 2006, 07:06
What is the problem in vbulletin.org ??? Since 1 month many thing change,but many member hate this,me too.

Please convert old style.Because best view for us Plugins, Extensions, etc

BamaStangGuy
15 Jun 2006, 07:37
In my opinion get rid of the thread prefix crap and use forums to seperate them like it was in the 3.0.x days. I can live with no knowing if it is a plugin or code hack... if I like the hack I will probably install it anyway. What I do not like at all is the thread prefix and having to use a drop down menu to go to a section. For 1 it is small text and hard to read with it all slammed together, two wont allow me to easily open sections in new windows/tabs with a middle click, 3 makes me use the back button more times than I care to change sections.

I know those who worked hard on this do not want to see this type of comment but honestly I just do not see it very efficent at all.

Ohiosweetheart
15 Jun 2006, 13:50
I have to agree, but hopefully they're still working on it and it isn't going to stay this way.
Give 'em time

tgreer
15 Jun 2006, 16:12
I love it. I hated wading through multiple, poorly defined subsections. You want a feature to add to your 3.6 forum? Mods -> 3.6 -> Add-ons, there you are. Slick!

Regs
15 Jun 2006, 16:33
Nicely done.

Kirk Y
15 Jun 2006, 17:30
I love it. I hated wading through multiple, poorly defined subsections. You want a feature to add to your 3.6 forum? Mods -> 3.6 -> Add-ons, there you are. Slick!

Your feelings may change once you find yourself looking for a specific mod whose title you can't remember. This is where Plugin/Extension and Showthread/Forumdisplay type sortings come in handy!

Dan
15 Jun 2006, 17:36
if you are looking for a specific mod, just type keywords into search normally you'll find it ;)

Bulent Tekcan
15 Jun 2006, 18:08
We didn't need specific mod,because many coder use different name for plugin.We need old style..

Kirk Y
15 Jun 2006, 18:15
if you are looking for a specific mod, just type keywords into search normally you'll find it ;)

But what if you have short-term memory loss (like me) and cannot remember any descriptive keywords? Not to mention the fact that if I were to search for a mod's title exactly, half the time, the mod in question isn't even shown on the first page, since there are often many other threads with keywords that fit with the mod too.

amykhar
15 Jun 2006, 18:28
I suggest giving the change some time. Experiment with it and see how it goes. As things were before, users were complaining about being unable to find mods in the forums. I am sure the modification database will evolve to be a feature-rich solution for sorting the code.

bairy
15 Jun 2006, 18:32
I think the thread prefixes are okay. It's just a different way of viewing subforums but with the advantage you can view them all at once.

I don't like the idea of merging all hacks into one generic forum "add-ons" though. For one thing, code modifications aren't really addons.
Pedantics aside, I know it's probably a bit easier for collective searches - though advanced search > select the forums you want always worked fine.
And I know it looks a little less confusing to new people, but it's frustrating to have to go into each result and scan the textboxes to see what type it is.

It's not so much a hack db as just mass merging.

This site has tons of hackers and designers on it, as well as many more casual hack users. Wouldn't it be better to ask them what would be a good design to have rather than just assuming and throwing something together that doesn't actually make things any better?

Kirk Y
15 Jun 2006, 18:41
Exactly. Isn't the point of a hack database to have things sorted and organized for easier viewing? Granted, some may say that having all the hacks jumbled up with one another makes for easier viewing, but the whole point is to catalogue them.

soniceffect
15 Jun 2006, 18:50
/me is reserving judgement ,,,, honestly not so sure whether I like it or not at the moment, but as said previously in this post, give it time guys .. I am :)

kira
15 Jun 2006, 19:26
The prefix system is okay, but the issue now is that it takes a helluva lot more navigation to get to what you want.

1) Go to forum's homepage
2) Click on Modifications
3) Click on your version of vb
4) Click dropdown menu to hunt down the sorta mod you're looking for

I know, I know it's not a big deal to click a few times. But four clicks to get to the juice of your content? Any website owner worth the name knows that you don't want your audience to have to drill down a navigation structure that frustrates them.

The whole raison d'etre of vb.org is the modification area. What's the benefit of hiding the mods away and making things more complicated than necessary?

The staff here is great, but geeze, I gotta wonder what's going on when y'all keep making things harder and less intuitive for your userbase. Do you guys remember the old hack database during the vb2 era? How easy it was to access? And best of all, people could get to things either through the homepage hierarchy or the more narrowly organized database. (Options = good!) Vb3 makes it even easier to create alternate views like this.

Well, I know you're still futzing around to see what works. That's cool. It'll take some experimenting I guess. Why not ask your users what they suggest? There'll always be differences of opinion, but perhaps a consensus can be found. Not to mention the fact that since things are still a bit tense around here, it's probably beneficial for the atmosphere if you invite the membership to help brainstorm.

Ain't it worth trying?

roosevelt
15 Jun 2006, 20:48
Current modification category system isn't really that good and doesn't look professional. However use the Show All links to see all at once: http://www.vbulletin.org/forum/showmods.php?

john1744
15 Jun 2006, 21:24
I really dislike it, and I agree to call this a hack db is laughable, it's merely subforums with prefixes that are cluttered together with hacks mixed and matched.

But whatever, I'll wait and see how it goes. But if this is the "hack db" color me incredibly dissapointed.

Marco van Herwaarden
15 Jun 2006, 21:50
This is not the hack db, nor does it have anything to do with that.

Only thing that might be slightly related is that if we implement the hack db, then all the forum categorising is not so important anymore.

bashy
15 Jun 2006, 22:00
I like the way it is now, although i liked it the way it was before, Yet the way it was before many members complained about it and wanted the hack database up and running asap.....

Peeps, not everyone can be pleased, as i am sure you can understand.......
The staff are trying there hardest to please everyone but there will be some
that are just not happy no matter what you try lol

Come on peeps give them a break
I am sure you will get used to it :)

WNxWakko
15 Jun 2006, 23:49
I do not like how they combined the Plugin, Extensions and Code Mods. I refuse to install any Code Mods, I am very picky on Extensions. This new visual is horrible, sorry but it is.

bigmonay2k
16 Jun 2006, 01:39
why did you guys do this???? I hate this, I can't find what I am looking for...this new things is not working us...
Danny.VBT please please please change it back the way it was, thank you

Ted S
16 Jun 2006, 03:31
The changes are good to use if you know what you are looking for but I have a feeling a lot of people are going to have trouble browsing to find things they want to add to their sites. Was there any particular reason for the change? Any usability testing?

Kirk Y
16 Jun 2006, 03:36
This is not the hack db, nor does it have anything to do with that.

Only thing that might be slightly related is that if we implement the hack db, then all the forum categorising is not so important anymore.

Welcome to the vBulletin.org Modification Database!

You wouldn't know it from looking at it.

Tralala
16 Jun 2006, 04:12
At first glance, I like the change. I will give it a whirl and follow amykhar's suggestion... see how it like it after using it for a while.

Roms
16 Jun 2006, 04:31
I don't really care for the combined Plugins, Extensions, and Code Mods. It was more organized before and easier to find what I was looking for...

The search isn't that effective. For example if I type in "e-mail" than I get 154 results and only a few are really hacks dealing with e-mail..

I realize I'll have to live with the changes and I do appreciate the work that goes into the site... I can live with it, it just makes finding new things to add more of an effort...

BamaStangGuy
16 Jun 2006, 18:21
You wouldn't know it from looking at it.
lol yea....

but its good to know it is not the hacks database

luroca
17 Jun 2006, 09:24
I am lost with this system; itīs confusing and I dislike it.
Please, go back.

bairy
17 Jun 2006, 11:14
The search isn't that effective. For example if I type in "e-mail" than I get 154 results and only a few are really hacks dealing with e-mail..
vB (as in the software) search has always been that way. Sometimes an advanced search by title only helps.

Brad
17 Jun 2006, 11:57
Searching for titles only is a good way to get vaild results. :) Another trick is to restrict your search to only a few forums at a time.

Bulent Tekcan
17 Jun 2006, 14:20
I never love file modification and before I seen only plugin forums.Because I know no any files modification in there.

But now everything is in same place.

I think many people not like that.

Please open a poll and see that.

Thanks

Gizmo5h1t3
18 Jun 2006, 09:34
no no no no no.
dont like this at all....this system as it is now is nothing but bloody awkward...lol

sorry feedback is negative, but it needs to be said.

whilst i appreciate that to move along with the times, change is needed, but this system of board layout isnt a patch on what it was...

C.Birch
18 Jun 2006, 20:03
I have to go with the flow and say i'm sorry but i dont like the new system makes everything harder to find and its all in one now, i liked the sub fream layout.

Dave-G
19 Jun 2006, 18:19
Whe n all you like using is Plug-ins because of the easy of install and future vb upgrading, the old system was nice and easy to navigate, now all the hacks are together is a mess.

Well done who thought this would be better!!!!