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Ted S
28 Aug 2007, 01:47
You would have to write conditionals to specifically change how the template is displayed. Welcome Headers appears on every page in the site, the forumhome template is just one page. Moving the code into it would certainly address your first question but welcome headers wouldn't appear on other pages defeating the entire purpose.

syschat
28 Aug 2007, 01:58
Thanks for all your help! Will this work:
Put the code in the forumhome page, where I want them, on top of the forums.
Then, put the following statement where the welcome header code is now:
<if !forumhome>
show headers
</if>

pierguy
29 Aug 2007, 03:07
I can't get this hack to uninstall. I installed it several months ago and have recently upgraded VB to the most recent version.

When I come to my site as an unregistered user, I see:

Welcome to the [ARG:3 UNDEFINED] forums.

You are currently viewing our boards as a guest, which gives...

I've removed $welcomeheaders from all my templates and removed the plugin. How can I get rid of this so I can install the newest version?

Ted S
29 Aug 2007, 04:26
The hack is uninstalled. What you are seeing is the default welcome header which comes with vBulletin. You can remove it in the FORUMHOME template as explained in the instructions.

To upgrade, just install the latest version and remove the default message. Everything else will work just fine.

cclaerhout
30 Aug 2007, 12:21
Hello ! Thanks for this hack. Could you add a new functionality that will allow to turn off the welcome headers with vBulletin Blog. It would be perfect :)

For those who wants to do it manually :
open "welcome_headers" template and search :
<if condition="$vboptions[wlhon] AND THIS_SCRIPT != 'register' AND THIS_SCRIPT != 'login'">

then replace with
<if condition="$vboptions[wlhon] AND THIS_SCRIPT != 'register' AND THIS_SCRIPT != 'login' AND THIS_SCRIPT != 'blog'">

Ted S
30 Aug 2007, 15:32
You can customize welcome headers to meet your needs in whatever way you see fit. At this time I am not supporting it with vbulletin blog until I had had a chance to test the system.

Delioncourt
30 Aug 2007, 17:18
OMG it really works !!
I'm not even finished editing the welcome_headers template and the text for all the messages and I've had 4 registrations!! In 20 minutes !
Thank you for this great release. It's so simple and yet so productive. This mod combined with some good old SEO and your forum will never be the same again :D

Zagis
30 Aug 2007, 17:28
Awesome! Thanks.

Installed

Ted S
30 Aug 2007, 17:56
OMG it really works !!
I'm not even finished editing the welcome_headers template and the text for all the messages and I've had 4 registrations!! In 20 minutes !
Thank you for this great release. It's so simple and yet so productive. This mod combined with some good old SEO and your forum will never be the same again :D

Awesome. Thanks for sharing your results!

Tact7626
31 Aug 2007, 00:30
installed this mod. very nifty and nice. i have great hopes it will do what it was designed to do. :) thanks for this mod.

Merriweather
01 Sep 2007, 14:42
Does anyone know if there is a way to hide the welcome headers on certain pages of the site -- specifically vbAdvance pages? I have added vBadvance and got everything just right, only to realize the welcome headers are showing all over the outside pages of my site when the viewer isn't logged in. :(

ETA I got it. Just needed to add AND THIS_SCRIPT != 'adv_index' to the following:

<if condition="$vboptions[wlhon] AND THIS_SCRIPT != 'register' AND THIS_SCRIPT != 'login'">

skunker
02 Sep 2007, 17:08
This is a wonderful mod. Thanks for making it available.

Marys242
03 Sep 2007, 05:17
thanks this is great...and very easy to install :D

valdet
04 Sep 2007, 16:14
I am using this for months now, and it really increases my registration rates.

Can you please add an extra option so Welcome header would show only on forum homepage and not in showthread and other pages?

Thanks.

edit: got it.

here it is:

<if condition="THIS_SCRIPT=='index' OR THIS_SCRIPT=='forumdisplay'">
$welcomeheaders
</if>

Ted S
04 Sep 2007, 17:44
valdet -

While that code will work, putting welcome headers on the forumhome page only completely and entirely defeats the purpose of the system and is a waste of server resources. Welcome Headers was written specifically because the default vBulletin welcome message appears on only this page; going back to that logic defeats the purpose of the system. If that's your goal, don't use welcome headers, it doesn't make sense.

Dimitrio
04 Sep 2007, 19:28
Can the header be translated? I lead a multi-lingual community site and I would like it to appear in different languages.

Kirkus
04 Sep 2007, 19:38
Any idea if this is compatible with vBulletin 3.6.8?

Ted S
04 Sep 2007, 20:34
Dimitrio - Welcome Headers uses phrases for all text which can be translated without code changes.

Kirkus - Yes it is.

oNeg
05 Sep 2007, 16:01
Any idea if this is compatible with vBulletin 3.6.8?

It's working fine for me so far.

I have a question about editing the messages though, and forgive me but there are far to many pages to go through to see if some has mentioned this or to know what to search to find the answer.

The {3} and numbers in general wrapped {}. What is the correct discription of these and how can I find a list of them to use in my messages?

Ted S
05 Sep 2007, 19:00
The {1}, {2}, ... refer to variable urls. There's no copy for these nor are there any more than what you already see (although you could add more). These are just urls to direct to pages safely and without me having to know your url structure. They can be removed or changed if you go to vBulletin Options --> Welcome Headers System, and click on the edit message by the message you want to change.

oNeg
06 Sep 2007, 07:41
Ok thanks appreciate the response!

fariborz khan
07 Sep 2007, 02:56
HI
work with 3.6.8?

Ted S
07 Sep 2007, 05:02
HI
work with 3.6.8?

Sure.

fariborz khan
07 Sep 2007, 12:17
Sure.
thank you for your answer and your good product:);) , installed
in addition can i use it as a feed reader?is it possible?

Ted S
07 Sep 2007, 16:22
in addition can i use it as a feed reader?is it possible?
Huh? Welcome Header... feeds... no relation.

fariborz khan
07 Sep 2007, 18:56
mersi
can i tabed wellcome header ?for exampel in on tab i write wellcome not and in other tab i write about rules and so on...
i want send you a private masege for my question , are you permit me do this?
thank you dear and sorry me for my english

Ted S
07 Sep 2007, 20:47
I'm not able to understand your writing but gather that you want to change the appearance of the welcome headers. You can do this by editing the template welcome_headers as you see fit. Each message has a different table.

valdet
08 Sep 2007, 12:32
valdet -

While that code will work, putting welcome headers on the forumhome page only completely and entirely defeats the purpose of the system and is a waste of server resources. Welcome Headers was written specifically because the default vBulletin welcome message appears on only this page; going back to that logic defeats the purpose of the system. If that's your goal, don't use welcome headers, it doesn't make sense.

Dear Ted, I hope you were not offended by my suggestion. Your hack is an immense resource. I had to remove the welcome headers only from showthread template in a single forum because I have vbseo and I used vbseo relevant replacements on top of the threads, so it serves better for SEO purposes.
Nevertheless, the Welcome Headers are still in every page of all my other forums I developed.

Thanks in advance,
Regards,
Val.

ForosAbiertos
09 Sep 2007, 08:05
I want create a variable:

forum_title = {7}

When I can do this?


Thanks

Ted S
10 Sep 2007, 08:50
I want create a variable:

forum_title = {7}

When I can do this?


Thanks

Edit the template welcome_headers and the plugin file as well.

ForosAbiertos
10 Sep 2007, 11:21
Can you tell me more info please?

where y what i have to edit in the template and plugin file?

Ted S
10 Sep 2007, 17:09
Can you tell me more info please?

where y what i have to edit in the template and plugin file?

If you do not know how to edit html or php, you should start by reading basic primers on both languages (www.w3schools.com (http://www.w3schools.com) and www.php.net (http://www.php.net)) and then move on to some vBulletin coding tutorials.

Alternatively you can not use the variable sytem and just modify the phrase to have whatever links you want. The phrase can be accessed through vbulletin options --> Welcome Headers System. Click edit on whichever messages you want to change.

rlpartida
19 Sep 2007, 23:45
Hello Ted S,

Im getting this error when I enable welcome headers:

Line: 608
Car: 3
Error: The object does not accept this property or method
Code: 0
URL: http://www.my-site.com/forums/forum-name/

I have included the $welcomeheaders in the header (at the bottom as instructed in the readme sile).

I could PM you the URL if you want to...

Ill appreciate your help.

Ted S
19 Sep 2007, 23:47
Line 608 of what file? That error doesn't come from welcome headers so I can only assume you have a conflict with some other code.

rlpartida
19 Sep 2007, 23:54
Thank you very much for your prompt response...

The thing is it dissapears as soon as I disable welcome headers...

Line 608 of what file? not sure, thats what I see when I click on the error at the bottom of IE

Should I PM you my URL?

schford
22 Sep 2007, 19:38
Could you tell me how to stop the welcome headers being displayed on the main index page (CMPS) of my site.

I am guessing I need to wrap the $welcomeheaders in some sort of code which says dont diaply if the page is index.php ?

Thanks

Stuart

Masiello
22 Sep 2007, 19:56
Could you tell me how to stop the welcome headers being displayed on the main index page (CMPS) of my site.

I am guessing I need to wrap the $welcomeheaders in some sort of code which says dont diaply if the page is index.php ?

Thanks

Stuart
Good question, I need the same.

Ted S
22 Sep 2007, 21:34
You can either edit the variable as follows:

<if condition="THIS_SCRIPT != 'pagename'">$welcomeheaders</if>

Or edit the template welcome_headers which already includes a few script checks like this one.

Where pagename is the name of the page.

schford
23 Sep 2007, 12:11
Thanks - tried it but really struggling......

BuRaCh
23 Sep 2007, 12:18
thank you sir
good hack..

triff
23 Sep 2007, 15:52
Thanks a lot for the good product!

Just one question: When tweaking the messages, what coding language do I use for hyperlinking, etc.? BBC, html, or something new for me to learn? ;-)

Cheers!
Sverre.

Ted S
23 Sep 2007, 17:18
HTML should be used.

triff
23 Sep 2007, 19:36
:-) That makes it a bit easier!

Now, is there any way I can preview these messages? Or will I just have to hope I coded it right?

SGL.

Ted S
23 Sep 2007, 19:43
You can setup users who fall into the various categories or just view the html in a browser but there is no preview functionality.

triff
23 Sep 2007, 21:45
Okay, thanks a lot! Works like a dream! :)

SGL.

needaltuna
27 Sep 2007, 07:02
What a great add-on! Initially, I was interested in this solely to spruce up vBulletin's drab welcome message, but having read through all the other nifty things this add-on can do, I'll definitely be making use of its plethora of other useful features.

Kudos and thanks to the developer.

sadiq6210
28 Sep 2007, 06:44
Thanks

htscpl
29 Sep 2007, 11:40
Great solution to getting browsers to sign up! I don't know why I didn't install it before! Thanks!

PurpleButterfly
29 Sep 2007, 18:53
Awesome, so easy and such a great tool! Thanks much! *smooch* :D

Nathan2006
29 Sep 2007, 19:09
Hi,

Is there anyway I can stop this from displaying for banned member?

Thank you for any help :)

smoknz28
29 Sep 2007, 19:28
Very nice mod....thank you for sharing. ;)

EricC
01 Oct 2007, 17:51
When posting the new code in the navbar, I get the following error:
Parse error: syntax error, unexpected ']', expecting T_STRING or T_VARIABLE or T_NUM_STRING in /home/eazy0000/public_html/forums/includes/adminfunctions_template.php(3596) : eval()'d code on line 376

It there anyone that could walk me through this hack in setting it up, or better yet going in my in my CPs and doing it for me? Sorry, I'm new to hacks and vB in general. Please PM me if you can help.

Thanks,
Eric

Ted S
01 Oct 2007, 21:03
It sounds like you are either using the wrong version of the hack for your version of vbulletin or you have modified a template in a way which is producing invalid code. The only thing you should be adding to your navbar template for this hack is the variable $welcomeheaders. Try saving the template without making any changes and see if it produces an error.

newbuck
06 Oct 2007, 15:07
Works Great...thx

Kohhal
09 Oct 2007, 08:43
Installed again after a few months absence, great hack :)

BadgerDog
09 Oct 2007, 16:09
I'm running Welcome Headers v4.2.2....

I'm also running "Limited Guest Viewing" v1.0.6

Within "Welcome Headers" under the AdminCP options, I have set

Limited Guest Viewing Surpression
Disable welcome headers if limited guest viewing system is on? YES


In spite of that, the custom "Welcome Headers" message I've set appears for un-registered users and once my threshold for reading threads/posts of 5 (my setting), it still continues to appear, but I also get the "Limited Guest Viewing" start to appear underneath it. :confused:

I thought that with the supression option turned ON, the "Welcome Headers" message would be superceded by the "Limited Guest Viewing" message when the post count was reached?

It looks odd to see BOTH messages displaying concurrently.

Any suggestions as to what I'm doing wrong?

Thanks ... :)

Regards,
Badger

Ted S
10 Oct 2007, 05:30
When suppression is enabled the welcome headers won't appear on any showthread pages. Either your hack versions are not upgraded to the latest versions or there is some other code conflicting with the plugins.


if($vbulletin->options['lgvon'] AND !$vbulletin->options['wlhlgv'] AND (THIS_SCRIPT == 'showthread' OR THIS_SCRIPT == 'showpost' OR THIS_SCRIPT == 'printthread') ) {
} else {
eval('$welcomeheaders = "' . fetch_template('welcome_headers') . '";');
}


What this code does is checks if LGV is on, and if so, if WH Supression is off and if so, if the script is showthread, printthread or showpost. If anything is changing any of these variables or the page names it won't work properly.

BadgerDog
10 Oct 2007, 11:34
Thanks Ted.... :)

I appreciate the response, even though this mod is listed as "unsupported" ... :up:

I'm just an old Fortran programmer, so please bear with me... ;)

I checked for conflicting variable names that might be conflicting using search. Only found this:


vBulletin Settings Phrases Containing 'lgvon'

setting_lgvon_desc ........ Standard Phrase This option allows you to enable or disable the Guest Limited Viewing System.
setting_lgvon_title ........ Standard Phrase Enable Limited Guest Viewing


Even though both versions numbers (as mentioned previously) were showing current in the "Installed Products" display, I completely re-installed (overwrote) both mods, "Welcome Headers v4.2.2" and "Limited Guest Viewing" v1.0.6. I made sure that variables were patched into the templates as per the instructions. I do not use VBSEO.

I then enabled the "Limited Guest Viewing" v1.0.6 and logged out, reading 5 posts as an un-registered user. My custom "Welcome Headers v4.2.2" message showed fine during the first 5 (my limit set in "Limited Guest Viewing"), however, as soon as I read the 6th post, my custom "Limited Guest Viewing" v1.0.6 message showed up below my "Welcome Headers v4.2.2" message, which continued to be displayed concurrently.

In any event, there must be something conflicting someplace, but my v3.67pl vBulletin is not a complicated installtion, so I have no idea what's happening.

"Welcome Headers" is what's important for me and since it works fine on its own, I think I'll just un-install "Limited Guest Viewing" and go from here.

Thanks for your coding and support... again, much appreciated.

If you ever want to check out what could be the problem, let me know and I'll provide you with full Admin access to view the templates, plugins etc.

Thanks

Regards,
Badger

BadgerDog
12 Oct 2007, 12:59
Now I'm really confused. :confused:

I thought I'd take another look at this before I uninstalled the Limited Guest Viewing mod, so as a test, I wanted to see what happened if I turned the Limited Guest Viewing Surpression option OFF, even though I have that mod installed.

If I have the Limited Guest Viewing Surpression option ON, then my custom Welcome Headers message appears on ALL pages, including the Forum Home and also Show Thread pages. As I said in previous posts, once the guest's preset number of posts he's allowed to read is reached, the extra warning starts to appear below the Welcome Headers message on ALL pages.

If I have the Limited Guest Viewing Surpression option OFF, then my custom Welcome Headers message only appears on Forum Home page. However, when the "guest" advisory message appears, it only appears on the Show Thread pages.

Any suggestions as to what I'm doing wrong, or perhaps I don't understand what these switches are supposed to be dong?

Thanks ... :)

Regards,
Badger

Ted S
13 Oct 2007, 01:15
Limited guest viewing only impacts showthread and showpost pages. Welcome headers impacts every page unless limited guest viewing is installed, enabled and suppression is on.

bxbigt
13 Oct 2007, 11:04
awesome hack i run a new site which gets about 6 - 10 new members a day
installed this like 1 am its 7 am and got 6 new members so far
and to top it off there active lol
thanks for the good work

ssandgirls
14 Oct 2007, 09:33
Hello, I am having a little trouble with this.. It installed fine on 3.6.7pli,

My users need to be activated by Admin.

I notice that if I register a user, they receive the "Havent posted yet" message, even when not activated.
It seems that the "Not activated" yet message isnt working

Im not using any other hacks to guest viewing or anything
any ideas, since its not really right telling them they havent posted yet, when they cannot yet if they havent been activated

How can I fix this?

Thankyou :)

Nickbe
14 Oct 2007, 13:05
If all else fails turn off the haven't posted welcome header...

bazzup
14 Oct 2007, 13:08
Hello, I am having a little trouble with this.. It installed fine on 3.6.7pli,

My users need to be activated by Admin.

I notice that if I register a user, they receive the "Havent posted yet" message, even when not activated.
It seems that the "Not activated" yet message isnt working

Im not using any other hacks to guest viewing or anything
any ideas, since its not really right telling them they havent posted yet, when they cannot yet if they havent been activated

How can I fix this?

Thankyou :)

just add to it a bit about your account may need to be activated

ssandgirls
14 Oct 2007, 19:27
Is there a way to get the 2 seperate messages to work?

According to the first post, the 2 messages are seperate...

One for Unactivated........ and a different one for not posted.....

If Ted can tell me how to fix this, that would be much appreciated.

Also Im a little unsure of how to change the wording..... and add links etc.....

Ted S
15 Oct 2007, 00:35
It sounds like you are moving users to a group other than the default pending one and as a result, the hack doesn't see them as pending. You can add conditionals to the template welcome_headers to customize the messages for your particular forum setup.

ssandgirls
15 Oct 2007, 08:09
Hi Ted, Im not moving them anywhere...... the default pending group, automatically goes to Registered users when I activate them... , its same as VB Defaults .

Any other reasons that might be happening?

Thankyou for your help, Id really like to get this working....

Ted S
15 Oct 2007, 19:34
What is the ID of your pending group (check in your Usergroup Manager)?

ssandgirls
15 Oct 2007, 19:41
Hi Ted, Groups as Follows:


Users Awaiting Moderation: ID = 4


when I activated them they move to registered users.

Registered Users: ID=2

Those are from the VB Default, Ive never changed them

Ted S
16 Oct 2007, 00:16
Welcome headers is setup to use group ID #3 for pending activation.

There are two ways you can address this... either you can add a new message or you can edit the template welcome_headers and change line 35:

<if condition="is_member_of($bbuserinfo, 4) AND $vboptions[wlhunconfirmed] AND !$welcomehdr">

ssandgirls
16 Oct 2007, 10:14
Hi Ted, I possibly gave you wrong info....

Seems I have 2 user groups awaiting confirmation:

(COPPA) Users Awaiting moderation : ID=4

Users awaiting email confirmation : ID=3

They then go into registered users ID=2 when I activate them....

Sorry for incorrect info previously......

Those groups are VB defaults .....

Thankyou for helping sort this out for me :)

Ted S
16 Oct 2007, 17:01
In that case you would need to add a message to handle people in group #2 (few people use the moderation option and almsot everyone uses it differently). You can copy an existing welcome header message, like the one on line 35, in the template welcome_headers and insert it before the message addressing post count.

mikeinjersey
16 Oct 2007, 21:40
Great plugin...but.

I uninstalled this plugin temporarily because I dont know how quickly the emails get sent out. I customized alot of the phrases and links for the emails being sent out.. and have no way of telling if everything came out ok.. The last thing I want to do is sent out emails to thousands of members with broken links. Thats as unprofessional as it gets.

I was wondering, how come there isnt a test email function available...or will it be available soon?

Another recommendation : Being able to customize the Title : of the emails being sent out.

Ted S
16 Oct 2007, 22:35
Great plugin...but.

I uninstalled this plugin temporarily because I dont know how quickly the emails get sent out. I customized alot of the phrases and links for the emails being sent out.. and have no way of telling if everything came out ok.. The last thing I want to do is sent out emails to thousands of members with broken links. Thats as unprofessional as it gets.

I was wondering, how come there isnt a test email function available...or will it be available soon?

Another recommendation : Being able to customize the Title : of the emails being sent out.
You must have this hack confused with something else... welcome headers appear on your website and don't have any relationship to email messages.

mikeinjersey
17 Oct 2007, 01:37
Ted, I am confused.

I thought this program would send out a email if they havent logged in for a certain period of time....or if they havent posted in a certain amount of time ? I would think that would work much better.

Also, is there a listing of what each number refers to in the phrases..and if we could add other variables. (example: the {2} {3} stuff )

Nickbe
17 Oct 2007, 01:38
and you got that idea where?

mikeinjersey
17 Oct 2007, 02:05
any idea how to remove the welcome headers from the home page, but have it everywhere else?

Nickbe
17 Oct 2007, 04:58
If it was not a plugin and a template mod instead I think there is an <IF> that covers it but no idea with plugins. Maybe youc an palce the same if conditional on the XML file.

Nickbe
17 Oct 2007, 05:02
<if condition="$forum[forumid] == X">XML</if>

try this tag have no idea how it will work i have never edited XML files

where you see the X put in the forum ID's of the forums you the header on.

Open the XML file find

<!-- // Start Welcome Headers // -->

after it put this in

<if condition="$forum[forumid] == X">

Go right to the end and add this

</if>

hichew
17 Oct 2007, 20:42
when i use this mod, seems like my database server load is jump to 100.
do you think this mod that causing this high load?
any idea? anybody use this on big boards (mine have 3000-5000 users online)

Ted S
17 Oct 2007, 21:48
when i use this mod, seems like my database server load is jump to 100.
do you think this mod that causing this high load?
any idea? anybody use this on big boards (mine have 3000-5000 users online)
No I don't -- there are no queries in this hack, just if conditionals based on data called by in the vbulletin user datamanager on every page. I would suggest you open up your shell access, monitor your load with the hack turned off, turn it on and see what happens in the next 2-3 minutes.

madotds
18 Oct 2007, 16:04
Great addition to my forum thank you very much

ssandgirls
19 Oct 2007, 03:10
Hey Ted, I got that all working now..... by changing the group in the template as you advised.
Thanks for all your help....... Now to edit the wording...... :)

Ted S
19 Oct 2007, 04:34
No problem. You can easily get to the wording i fyou go to vBulletin Options --> Welcome Headers System and look for the "edit" links.

Reeve of shinra
24 Oct 2007, 05:26
New Idea Time :)

I'm thinking about using javascript to select random messages. I think it will keep things 'fresh' and keep members or potential members looking at the option to register. I googled up some basic javascript but I thought I would toss the idea out to see if anyone has any thing to add.

slosupra
30 Oct 2007, 17:19
greta mod thanks

caliman
02 Nov 2007, 05:45
I recently upgrade to php 5.2.4 from php 4.4.7....

My old version of this mod - 4.0.3 - does not work with php5.

Does this version?

Ted S
02 Nov 2007, 17:20
This mod doesn't care what version of php you use -- it's little more than an HTML conditional with some marketing copy. If you can run vbulletin, you can run welcome headers.

caliman
02 Nov 2007, 17:51
This mod doesn't care what version of php you use -- it's little more than an HTML conditional with some marketing copy. If you can run vbulletin, you can run welcome headers.

Ted no offense. But I couldn't get into my admin panel until I disabled it after upgrading to php 5.2.4. So the version I was using - 4.0.3 - had something it didn't like. I agree that it is strange.

Ted S
03 Nov 2007, 07:26
Ted no offense. But I couldn't get into my admin panel until I disabled it after upgrading to php 5.2.4. So the version I was using - 4.0.3 - had something it didn't like. I agree that it is strange.
None taken. Welcome Headers may certainly have conflicted with another hack you have, or another hack may have conflicted with welcome headers but welcome headers does nothing that would conflict with php. The code is literally nothing more than a vbulletin template and has nothing to do with login processes, urls or getting into the ACP. Versions, 4.0.3, 3.0, 2.0, 1.0, they're all virtually the same with a few changes to make updates and customizations easier -- when it gets down to it, welcome headers is a method of marketing to users based on vbulletin conditionals and nothing more. I've got this running on just about every setup imaginable and never heard of anyone running into issues because of php versions, from a code perspective it just doesn't make any sense. But as I always say, if you don't think the addon is good for your forum, by all means, don't use it.

caliman
03 Nov 2007, 08:02
Oh I will use it. It is the mod to have bar none. I would give all the gee-whiz mods away to just have the return that this mod has. This mod is great. 8)

You may be right. I could have dinged the code myself. But I won't know until tomorrow because I am suspending al judgment until then. I had a good dinner and a couple drinks. Good night! :)

caliman
03 Nov 2007, 16:43
New version worked great. So who knows!

JtChurch925
03 Nov 2007, 17:13
Would it be possible to show announcements over certain threads and not others? I don't know too much about conditional statements but I'm guessing ti might have something to do with those...

Any help?:confused:

FIM
08 Nov 2007, 23:04
nice installed ;)

bada_bing
12 Nov 2007, 17:49
How can I get the welcome messages to show up with Vbportal installed. They show up fine while in the forums are but not in the portal area?

Ted S
12 Nov 2007, 18:00
You would need to add them to the templates that control that system.

bada_bing
12 Nov 2007, 18:18
HOW? I have no clue how to do that?

Ted S
12 Nov 2007, 19:53
I don't provide support with integrating welcome headers with other systems. You may have some luck searching this thread or their forum for integration tips.

BadgerDog
15 Nov 2007, 14:48
Hi Ted... :)

Question: I've got this set so guests go through a few posts in a specific "Feature of the Month" forum, then start getting the message they should register. I then let them go through a few more posts and set up the blocking message.

So, to circuvent the block and keep reading threads, some have found the trick of creating a fake email address that bounces (ie: test@yahoo.com) which gets them into the non-guest state usergroup "Users Awaiting Email Confirmation".

By doing this, they are now able to continue to read threads as long as they want, with no intention of ever having to register properly.

I guess the question is....

How can I get the two usergroups # 3 - Users Awaiting Email Confirmation and #1 - Unregistered / Not Logged In to be treated the same and accumulative in their post count? In otherwords, if they were blocked as guests, is there a way of having that block stay in place until the actually confirm their email address and become usergroup #2 - Registered?

Thanks for your work ... :up:

Regards,
Badger

induslady
15 Nov 2007, 14:48
Hello Ted,

Thank you for this mod, it works superb!

I need a help with a small change I am looking at.

Please see the attached screen shot of my site showing the message for a vistior (not logged in just lurking).

This message - "Register Today, it is FREE and you could WIN a T-shirt! Don't miss to interact...", it appears in 2 locations...

1) Below the navbar breadcromb, left of the login panel.
2) Below the Forum menu as a separate block - which keeps repeating in all pages within the forum the visitor would navigate.

I know that both locations are showing the same message because of the "navbar" template calling the "welcomeheader" template which uses the phrase welcome_guest.

Just to let you know I am calling the 'welcomeheader' template in 'navbar' and NOT in 'Forumhome' since I am running vbseo.

I want to know, if it's possible to display a different message in the below breadcrumb location and not the same as below the forum home, so that I can use the locations for different messages.

Like in the below breadcrumb - welcome message informing about my community
In the below forum menu - tempting a visitor to register.

Thanks in advance for you suggestion.

Ted S
15 Nov 2007, 16:29
Question: I've got this set so guests go through a few posts in a specific "Feature of the Month" forum, then start getting the message they should register. I then let them go through a few more posts and set up the blocking message.


Your question is in the wrong hack thread...

But simply put, you would need to edit the php code contained in the plugin-xml file to not only check if the user is a guest but also if they are in that usergroup. It should only require a few additional characters of code and be fairly simple to do if you know basic php.

Ted S
15 Nov 2007, 16:32
Hello Ted,

Thank you for this mod, it works superb!

I need a help with a small change I am looking at.


It looks like you missed step 2 of the instructions and have not removed the base welcome header from your vbulletin FORUMHOME template, although you also appear to be using a custom template which may be setup differently. If you wish to leave this message but customize the text, you would either need need to the template with the second message and either create a new phrase or just put your content in directly to that spot.

BadgerDog
15 Nov 2007, 16:37
Your question is in the wrong hack thread...

But simply put, you would need to edit the php code contained in the plugin-xml file to not only check if the user is a guest but also if they are in that usergroup. It should only require a few additional characters of code and be fairly simple to do if you know basic php.


Thank you ... :up:

My apologies for the wrong thread.... :o

I use all of you work and I got confused... :D

I will get out the PHP file and check for that ...

Regards,
Badger

Ted S
15 Nov 2007, 19:58
No problem.

induslady
16 Nov 2007, 21:04
It looks like you missed step 2 of the instructions and have not removed the base welcome header from your vbulletin FORUMHOME template, although you also appear to be using a custom template which may be setup differently. If you wish to leave this message but customize the text, you would either need need to the template with the second message and either create a new phrase or just put your content in directly to that spot.

Thanks, Ted.

I got the headers working with different messaes in navbar area and below the forum menu. Cool.

SCRIPT3R
20 Nov 2007, 00:28
Enable Post More Often Message = 42, but the message is appearing immediately... any suggestions?

SNATCH3R
20 Nov 2007, 06:50
Thanks for this wonderful mod.....gr8 work

popowich
21 Nov 2007, 17:27
I'm looking at this thread, but I'm not seeing the answer. Is it possible to only have the guests message encouraging registration show up on the vbadvanced CMPS landing page? I want it because I use the guest welcome header as the site description block of text. Is there a better way for me to be displaying that text? Thanks!

-Raymond

Ted S
21 Nov 2007, 22:36
I'm looking at this thread, but I'm not seeing the answer. Is it possible to only have the guests message encouraging registration show up on the vbadvanced CMPS landing page? I want it because I use the guest welcome header as the site description block of text. Is there a better way for me to be displaying that text? Thanks!

Is it possible? Sure. But that's exactly the opposite of why welcome headers exists. People don't just enter your website through the homepage so why would you only greet them there?

If all you want is a homepage message edit your homepage template as you see fit.

popowich
21 Nov 2007, 22:53
Makes sense. I suppose my real issue is that the welcome headers don't display at all on the vBadvanced CMPS landing page. They display fine in the forums. I seem to have the opposite problem of everyone else. I see some people trying to remove them, I'm not sure why they are not displaying to begin with.

-Raymond

Ted S
22 Nov 2007, 07:55
They don't display on your CMS landing pages because your CMS doesn't use the standard vBulletin templates. Basically they aren't displaying because they shouldn't. You'd need to hack it in to them... this is explained somewhere in the history of this thread if you search around,

popowich
22 Nov 2007, 12:50
Q: How do I add the welcome headers to my vBadvanced CMPS landing page?

A: Add "welcomeheaders" to admincp -> vBa CMPS -> default settings -> main options -> portal output global variables

-Raymond

caliman
28 Nov 2007, 15:53
Is there a way I can have welcome headers ONLY show up on my forum index?

wajones
28 Nov 2007, 16:56
Just wanted to thank you for this mod, even though I can only mark as installed once, I've installed this dozens of times for our vbportal users.

Icy
28 Nov 2007, 17:21
Is there a way I can have welcome headers ONLY show up on my forum index?
Edit the FORUMHOME template instead of header template.

Ted S
28 Nov 2007, 18:51
Is there a way I can have welcome headers ONLY show up on my forum index?

Yes but your forumindex already has a welcome header. Adding welcome headers to only one page is a waste of time and defeats the entire purpose (and benefit) of the system.

SCRIPT3R
28 Nov 2007, 19:05
Enable Post More Often Message = 42, but the message is appearing immediately... any suggestions?
I've confirmed this on three separate installations... bug perhaps?

Silmarillion
28 Nov 2007, 21:32
I want to use an image welcome header like vbseo do. Is ist possible to show the last x-threads in this welcome header?

tom212
28 Nov 2007, 23:07
Ted,

This looks like an awesome mod and I'm looking forward to trying it. However, I'm really new at this whole vBulletin thing and am concerned about getting in the middle and finding I've messed something up along the way. Is there a way to back out or uninstall this after it's been installed/imported?

Thanks!

Tom

Ted S
28 Nov 2007, 23:30
I want to use an image welcome header like vbseo do. Is ist possible to show the last x-threads in this welcome header?

It would take a fairly sophisticated system to be able to show threads in an image. What you would likely want to do is use an image as well as some text to accomplish your goal. Since the content from the latest threads is changing all the time, I don't imagine it will be a roadblock from getting spidered but rather from what content is first seen by the spiders. Ultimately it's going to take some work to build in a list of those threads as well as a trade-off between SEO and the user experience.

SCRIPT3R
29 Nov 2007, 00:12
Enable Post More Often Message = 42, but the message is appearing immediately... any suggestions?

I've confirmed this on three separate installations... bug perhaps?

Ted S, you seem to keep "missing" my question... any clue?

rwoscott
29 Nov 2007, 01:53
Installed, Thankyou.

Now I need to wait to see if it actually works!! Converting the unconverted, that is.

Ted S
29 Nov 2007, 04:14
Ted S, you seem to keep "missing" my question... any clue?

This issue has come up a few times in the past... from what I recall some forums don't increment the variable welcome headers looks at correctly. I'll dig into this tomorrow and get back to you with something to see if that's what's going on your site.

angel150586
30 Nov 2007, 00:13
Installed excellent mod thanks soooooo much!

raghavhere
30 Nov 2007, 04:47
Really Love the mod. Great work dude

cajunboy2208
30 Nov 2007, 20:44
Great hack, I have it installed
One question

How can I get it to display the message when they are viewing a thread?

They see it on the main page, and also in main forums.
But when viewing a thread... it does not show up.
And with all of my guests I get mainly viewing threads, I really need this there.

caliman
30 Nov 2007, 20:55
Yes but your forumindex already has a welcome header. Adding welcome headers to only one page is a waste of time and defeats the entire purpose (and benefit) of the system.

I am trying to deal with SEO issues here.

Ted S
30 Nov 2007, 21:35
I am trying to deal with SEO issues here.
Well you'll have to weigh your perceived understanding of SEO versus effectively communicating to your visitors. It's a tradeoff every site makes. If your end thought is that welcome headers should not be on every page then by all means, don't use it. You can easily customize the default welcome header that comes with vbulletin for your forumhome page.

Ted S
30 Nov 2007, 21:36
How can I get it to display the message when they are viewing a thread?


Do you have Limited Guest Viewing installed?

cajunboy2208
30 Nov 2007, 21:57
Do you have Limited Guest Viewing installed?

Yes I do.

Ted S
30 Nov 2007, 21:59
There is an option to suppress welcome headers with limited guest viewing, toggle it off (or on if it's already off).

cajunboy2208
30 Nov 2007, 22:05
That did the trick, I thought it would of disabled the limited guest viewing... but it is still enabled.

Thank you! =)

caliman
30 Nov 2007, 22:32
Well you'll have to weigh your perceived understanding of SEO versus effectively communicating to your visitors. It's a tradeoff every site makes. If your end thought is that welcome headers should not be on every page then by all means, don't use it. You can easily customize the default welcome header that comes with vbulletin for your forumhome page.

Perceived? Nice shot.
This mod works great, but it does dilute.

Ted S
30 Nov 2007, 23:35
Perceived? Nice shot.
This mod works great, but it does dilute.
Obviously any site-wide copy is going to have an impact how what the spiders see, how it impacts your rankings is a matter of debate but that's not really the point you're getting at.

If the mod works great for you, disabling it or using it on only one page would seem unwise. Why not try the vbSEO recommendation and turn your guest message (which is all the spiders see) into an image?

Ted S
30 Nov 2007, 23:37
That did the trick, I thought it would of disabled the limited guest viewing... but it is still enabled.


Nope. The reason the option exists is that you now have the possibility of showing two similar messages if someone triggers the limited guest viewing system. My suggestion would be to create a short message for limited guest viewing as the welcome header will already give them an intro to the site.

kiFF
07 Dec 2007, 21:37
Is there a header for users that have only posted once? I'd like there to be a searate message for users with only 1 post. :)

Ted S
07 Dec 2007, 22:07
Is there a header for users that have only posted once? I'd like there to be a searate message for users with only 1 post. :)
Welcome Headers is only meant to be an example of what you can do... you can and should be customizing it with messages and new conditionals that make sense for your forum.

kiFF
08 Dec 2007, 00:25
I don't know how to do that. Do I have to go into the templates and type my own code? If so, can you just tell me what I'd need for users who only have 1 post please?

Ted S
08 Dec 2007, 22:43
I don't know how to do that. Do I have to go into the templates and type my own code? If so, can you just tell me what I'd need for users who only have 1 post please?
Yes you would need to go into the template and edit the very basic html & vb conditional code. There's already a message that checks for post count so you can more or less copy that and change the post number and resulting message.

kiFF
09 Dec 2007, 13:42
Thank you. It took me a while to figure out, because I was trying: <if condition="$bbuserinfo[posts]=1
When it should have been <if condition="$bbuserinfo[posts]<2
That's wierd though, because you would think that the message would show up if you had no posts, because 0 is less than 2, but I guess the other header overrides it?

Ted S
09 Dec 2007, 17:46
In php and vbulletin conditions you need to use == to check if one value equals another. When you use just =, you're stating that this variable is the value.

Ted S
18 Dec 2007, 21:06
Attention vB 3.7 beta 2 users: Please check back this weekend for an important update to the welcome headers system!

andreamarucci
24 Dec 2007, 13:47
Fantastic hack but don't you think that adding an option to let guest view just the thread titles until they register should make this mod perfect?

I'm asking this since my forum will become a pay forum. Instead of hiding the interesting forum to the guests, I would like to show them just the thread titles so they can realize that, if they register, they will access more interesting contents.

Weapon-x
24 Dec 2007, 13:58
Attention vB 3.7 beta 2 users: Please check back this weekend for an important update to the welcome headers system!

Thank you. Can't wait to see a 3.7 release!

Jase2
25 Dec 2007, 16:33
I can't get this work - I did everything right - edited the template ect. then imported the xml product. I can edit the welcome message ect. in my ACP - but when I view as a guest I cannot see the welcome message... any ideas why?

Regards Jason :)

leenster
26 Dec 2007, 01:13
installed on 3.6.8 without problems. thank you for this mod.

Ted S
26 Dec 2007, 05:01
I can't get this work - I did everything right - edited the template ect. then imported the xml product. I can edit the welcome message ect. in my ACP - but when I view as a guest I cannot see the welcome message... any ideas why?

Regards Jason :)

Open the template welcome_headers and add ABCD (or any other words) to the top. Refresh your forum as a guest... if it's not there, then you haven't enabled the plugin, plugin system or added the $welcomeheaders variable to your templates.

Ted S
26 Dec 2007, 05:02
Fantastic hack but don't you think that adding an option to let guest view just the thread titles until they register should make this mod perfect?


No, I don't. Welcome Headers is intended to inform guests, unconfirmed users and other user groups about their status and your site and not to impact their browsing experience. However, the system is intended to be a starting point... how you customize it is up to you.

LilSniper
02 Jan 2008, 02:39
Does this work for 3.6.7?

Thanks!

Ted S
02 Jan 2008, 02:45
Does this work for 3.6.7?

Yes, it will work with an older version of the 3.6 series release although you should consider upgrading.

LilSniper
02 Jan 2008, 04:46
Thanks for the fast reply.

Installed without a problem!

REVHEAD
05 Jan 2008, 19:34
I got mine installed very nice.

How do I enlarge the tect if at all possible ,and change the colour of the text ,because the skin im runiing is clashing with the text ,thanks.

REVHEAD
05 Jan 2008, 23:18
I read a couple of posts regarding welcome images ,I have office 2007 and not frontpage,how could I put links in? allso my Header is above the login box,were would I move the ttext to get it below this area away from my adsese .

I would still allso like to know how to add colour and ,change font sizes and add clickable links to the text , I am sorry if I am outa the look ,I am a big noob with the internet haha.

Thanks

Ted S
06 Jan 2008, 04:03
Office is not an html editor and should not be used to modify welcome headers.

You can either learn basic html or find an editor and modify the individual phrases for each message. To edit them, go to your vBulletin Options, select Welcome Headers System and look for the link next to each message to edit it.

REVHEAD
07 Jan 2008, 07:34
hi ted
I can edit the header ,and thats all good ,but how can I change the size of the text and add links ,I tried vb bb coes but no good, I want to allso edit the colour of my text to reflect the forum .

I know nothing about php or hosting a site, i am learning on the run haha

Ted S
07 Jan 2008, 18:21
hi ted
I can edit the header ,and thats all good ,but how can I change the size of the text and add links ,I tried vb bb coes but no good, I want to allso edit the colour of my text to reflect the forum .

I know nothing about php or hosting a site, i am learning on the run haha

Phrases use HTML, not bbcode. See www.w3schools.org (http://www.w3schools.org) for an HTML primer.

REVHEAD
08 Jan 2008, 06:06
Cheers TED

zerokarma
08 Jan 2008, 15:39
Installed easy and works great.

I moved the location of the message to under the Nav bar though, I also made a few other minor template modifications to blend it in a little better.

I guess I'll have to wait and see if it increases registration/posting.

sp0okz
08 Jan 2008, 16:45
works with 3.7 also as i just added it :)

Ted S
08 Jan 2008, 17:24
works with 3.7 also as i just added it :)

It will work but may not be the best version to use for 3.7 (depending on your preferences). Please see the 3.7 version (http://www.vbulletin.org/forum/showthread.php?t=165519) of this add-on.

sp0okz
08 Jan 2008, 17:39
Sorry i didnt know there was any sorry im kinda New...

Ted S
08 Jan 2008, 17:49
Sorry i didnt know there was any sorry im kinda New...

No problem! Just trying to point you in the right direction.

REVHEAD
09 Jan 2008, 07:56
I have made some text with Dreamweaver ,now hod do I insert this ,I dont think its as simple as copy and paste,an aany one offer some help please.

Thanks

Ted S
09 Jan 2008, 15:23
I have made some text with Dreamweaver ,now hod do I insert this ,I dont think its as simple as copy and paste,an aany one offer some help please.

If you have the HTML code, it is just that simple. Please see www.w3schools.org (http://www.w3schools.org) for an HTML tutorial.

ECMatt90
09 Jan 2008, 23:16
I have installed it as I was told, but when I go to my admincp I can't find Welcome Heads as an option on the left hand column. Please advise

Ted S
09 Jan 2008, 23:33
I have installed it as I was told, but when I go to my admincp I can't find Welcome Heads as an option on the left hand column. Please advise

Thanks for waiting to PM me. :D

You can find the options by going to your vBulletin Options section. Each system is named and in the drop down.

jpbryan
10 Jan 2008, 18:34
Great, Thank you..

ctfortner
11 Jan 2008, 14:46
excellent mod, thanks for sharing. I think this will help a lot, its installed, so we will see. I get around 200 u/v per day to my forum, only 1-2 of that registers, and 0-1 of them post anything. I would love for this to help out~!

clearchannel
11 Jan 2008, 22:27
No matter how I install welcome headers AND limited guest viewing, the orginial vb guest welcome message appears in showthreads.

I do have google adsense as well as vbseo install, I'm not sure if that has anything to do with these two hacks.

Thanks in advance!

Ted S
12 Jan 2008, 18:54
There is no original vb welcome message in showthreads... the vbulletin message appears only on the FORUMHOME page hence the needs for welcome headers. What message are you trying to remove?

nyqnzguju
22 Jan 2008, 18:26
thanks man great hack.;)

rwoscott
23 Jan 2008, 18:56
Installed, Thankyou.

Now I need to wait to see if it actually works!! Converting the unconverted, that is.
Testimonial

Proof is in the pudding. After having this install for 2 months. New registrations have gone through the roof. We are currently in our off season and the 2 months shown are usually very quiet.


New Registrations for the months Dec and Jan and years (I installed at the end of Nov 07)
Dec/Jan 05/06 - 18
Dec/Jan 06/07 - 13
Dec/Jan 07/08 - 64


A massive increase.

Thanks Ted S. :up::up:

Ted S
23 Jan 2008, 19:08
Glad to hear it's working for you!

REVHEAD
27 Jan 2008, 10:24
Hi guys

I have decided that with my lack of html experiance ect that I want to uninstall this mod.

I have uninstalled it but there still seems to be something left behind ,I will upload an attachment so u can see the welcome headers still there in my template ,how can I remove this without stuffing up my forums ,thanks in advance.

I will try the mod when I gain a little more experiance.

bonjurkes
30 Jan 2008, 21:36
Do i have a chance for showing messages for only specified usergroups? I have a user group that users needs to post 10 message for being a real member and their first 10 posts must approved by admins.

Probably some members aren't going to understand it and complain, so do i have a chance to only showing specified message for specified usergroups?

Ted S
30 Jan 2008, 22:22
Do i have a chance for showing messages for only specified usergroups? I have a user group that users needs to post 10 message for being a real member and their first 10 posts must approved by admins.

Probably some members aren't going to understand it and complain, so do i have a chance to only showing specified message for specified usergroups?
Welcome Headers is a framework which is meant to be extended... Just pop open the template welcome_headers, look at the examples and change or edit the messages to fit your needs.

rwoscott
31 Jan 2008, 20:54
I have updated some of the welcome message phrases, and the parameter {3} that inserts sendmessage.php isn't working properly.
How do I know what {1}, {2}, {3} etc refer to?
Where do I find these to update them?

Ted S
01 Feb 2008, 00:46
You can find the variable calls in the template welcome_headers. As far as changing them, you really don't need to use these variable calls... they're included to allow welcome headers to function well out of the box. If you go to your ACP and select the Welcome Headers System you will be able to edit the phrase (which includes the links) for each message. Feel free to include any links, lists or other formatting that suits your site's needs.

rwoscott
01 Feb 2008, 02:16
You can find the variable calls in the template welcome_headers. As far as changing them, you really don't need to use these variable calls... they're included to allow welcome headers to function well out of the box. If you go to your ACP and select the Welcome Headers System you will be able to edit the phrase (which includes the links) for each message. Feel free to include any links, lists or other formatting that suits your site's needs.
Thank, Ted.
I have changed the templates, via the links in vboptions(admicp), and included the link names, that I wanted. But I've always wondered where the {1} parms get there info from.

TheInsaneManiac
04 Feb 2008, 12:32
You said it worked with the limited guest viewing system and that if we have it we need to enable the option for it in the welcome headers mod. My question is if we don't enable "Register Take-Over Message", but we do enable "Enable Register Block Page" do we have to enable the option in your welcome headers mod?

EvErDrEaMs
04 Feb 2008, 12:49
sweet thx.

chuckrobbie
04 Feb 2008, 17:51
I am a noob! And an old one at that!
This is what I have in the forum home template...HOW DO I FIX THIS??

<if condition="$show['guest']">
<table width="$stylevar[outertablewidth]" style="background-image:url(prfantasia/fantasia/ort.gif)" border="0" cellpadding="0" cellspacing="0">
<tr>
<td align="left" valign="top"><img src="prfantasia/fantasia/sol.gif" alt=" " border="0" /></td>
<td align="center" width="$stylevar[outertablewidth]" style="background-image:url(prfantasia/fantasia/ort.gif)" valign="middle"><strong><font color="#FFFFFF"><phrase 1="$vboptions[bbtitle]">$vbphrase[welcome_to_the_x]</font></phrase></td>
<td align="right" valign="top"><img src="prfantasia/fantasia/sag.gif" alt=" " border="0" /></td>
<tr>
<td class="alt1" colspan="<if condition="$vboptions['showmoderatorcolumn']">6<else />5</if>">
<phrase 1="faq.php$session[sessionurl_q]" 2="register.php$session[sessionurl_q]">$vbphrase[first_visit_message]</phrase>
</td>

</tr>
</table>
</if>


Many thanks

Ted S
04 Feb 2008, 18:50
Just as the instructions state, you delete it.

juice2u
05 Feb 2008, 16:26
Hello, I'm a newbie and this is my first hack installation. I trie to install with no success. I think I'm not doing something right with the instruction #4. I believe that's the install plug in part. Can I get a little more detail on how to do this? TIA.

Ted S
05 Feb 2008, 17:08
Installing a plugin is a very basic process that involves uploading the xml file attached to this addon. For more information see http://www.vbulletin.com/docs/html/plugin_system

rwoscott
05 Feb 2008, 18:12
Hello, I'm a newbie and this is my first hack installation. I trie to install with no success. I think I'm not doing something right with the instruction #4. I believe that's the install plug in part. Can I get a little more detail on how to do this? TIA.
Step 3 is the plugin, and you do exactly as it says, it does all the updates then.
Step 4 is the configuration step, where you change the product to suit your needs.

What exactly is your problem?

James Argo
06 Feb 2008, 00:44
Absolutely installed!!! :)

Thanks alot for providing it Teds! :)

Hey, can anyone point me to have the message "following" when unregistered guest scrolling the page down? I've seen it on many forums around. I guess it involves some hack / additional plugin / some script / template mods (?)

Thanks in advance! :up:

;)
Jaymz

Ted S
06 Feb 2008, 04:22
No problem. While I don't have a link, you're looking for a little snippit of DHTML code that floats a div/table on the page as the user scrolls. This can be integrated with welcome headers, just find your javascript code and edit the template welcome_headers appropriately.

rwoscott
06 Feb 2008, 18:12
Hey, can anyone point me to have the message "following" when unregistered guest scrolling the page down? I've seen it on many forums around. I guess it involves some hack / additional plugin / some script / template mods (?)

Thanks in advance! :up:

;)
JaymzIs this the one? (http://www.vbulletin.org/forum/showthread.php?t=120784)

Ted S
06 Feb 2008, 18:37
That's not quiet what I've seen but it's certainly along the same lines. I would suggest stepping outside of the vB world and looking at dhtml scripts that can be customized.

James Argo
07 Feb 2008, 17:50
Is this the one? (http://www.vbulletin.org/forum/showthread.php?t=120784)

Yes, something like that! :) I wish I can wrap Ted's mod to show like oninuva's one :)

BTW Ted, I noticed something you may want to fix. Not a bug, just a link adjustment to make it consistent.

I installed ver 4.2.2 in vB 3.6.8.

When I go to AdminCP --> AdminCP --> Plugin and products --> Manage product
and click the plugin name, it still linked to the old version (4.12) which is for vB ver 3.5.x

http://www.vbulletin.org/forum/showthread.php?p=807808

CMIIW, but I think it should link to this thread instead

http://www.vbulletin.org/forum/showthread.php?t=119572

It's in the xml file :)

In version 1.00 for vB 3.7.0 there is no link in the mentioned spot. Iguess you may want to point it to http://www.vbulletin.org/forum/showthread.php?t=165519

Anyway, thanks for great plugin!

;)
Jaymz

CLF
08 Feb 2008, 00:42
FANTASTIC!!!
INSTALLED!!!

Thank you!!! :up:

ChaosBurnt
09 Feb 2008, 13:44
An awesome idea, fingers crossed it helps with new members, thanks for this.

*installed*

Afterglow86
10 Feb 2008, 09:20
Great hack. Installed.

REVHEAD
11 Feb 2008, 04:41
Hi guys

I have decided that with my lack of html experiance ect that I want to uninstall this mod.

I have uninstalled it but there still seems to be something left behind ,I will upload an attachment so u can see the welcome headers still there in my template ,how can I remove this without stuffing up my forums ,thanks in advance.

I will try the mod when I gain a little more experiance.

any help on this appreciated..

James Argo
11 Feb 2008, 06:42
any help on this appreciated..

Well, I believe the mod doesn't add any template to your curent style / skin. Just revert back the steps as the instruction manual, and you should be fine.

Remove any $welcomeheaders code from your templates' header, paste back the old "welcome message" code in the FORUMHOME template, uninstall the product... that's it.

What's exactly your problem you need to uninstall it? Maybe we can help :)

;)
Jaymz

Budweiser
11 Feb 2008, 20:29
I am trying to edit 'welcome_headers' so I can have a different colored background in the table. I cant seem to figure out why its not working for me. Can anyone tell me what I am doing wrong?

I added the following to 'welcome_headers':

<!-- guest welcome message -->
<br />
<table class="tborder" cellpadding="$stylevar[cellpadding]" cellspacing="$stylevar[cellspacing]" border="0" bgcolor="#FFFF80" width="100%" align="center">
<tr>

Thanks, Kevin

Ted S
12 Feb 2008, 05:31
BGColor shouldn't be used like that. Try adding style="background-color:#FFFF80" to the <td> tag instead or changing the css classes.

Budweiser
12 Feb 2008, 16:49
Hello, I'm a newbie and this is my first hack installation. I trie to install with no success. I think I'm not doing something right with the instruction #4. I believe that's the install plug in part. Can I get a little more detail on how to do this? TIA.

Step #4:

Log into your AdminCP - On the control panel click on 'vBulletin options' - Scroll down the list and highlight 'welcome headers messages' then click on the 'edit settings' button. The 'welcome headers' setting then appear. To turn on the headers set 'enable welcome headers' to YES. The next few options are self explanitory.

If you have the 'Limited Guest Viewing' add-on installed then set "Limited Guest Viewing Surpression" to yes. Otherwise leave it set at NO.

Hope this helps.
Kevin

Budweiser
12 Feb 2008, 17:15
BGColor shouldn't be used like that. Try adding style="background-color:#FFFF80" to the <td> tag instead or changing the css classes.

Thank you sir! I've got it now.

Kevin

CHPMustang
14 Feb 2008, 15:40
Thanks Ted! Just added this mod the other day,we should have done it a long time ago!:up:

chevy01xtreme
14 Feb 2008, 16:15
is it something like they have on this site?
click me (http://gixxernation.com/forums/)

Ted S
14 Feb 2008, 17:57
There's a lot on the page, but if you're referring to the sign up form at the of the page, no, that's not using this plugin.

chevy01xtreme
14 Feb 2008, 23:42
There's a lot on the page, but if you're referring to the sign up form at the of the page, no, that's not using this plugin.
yea that is this one (http://www.vbulletin.org/forum/showthread.php?t=114342) i think i will go with yours :)

now after i install this on my 3.6.8 pl2 will i have to re-install it again once i go with 3.7 . when they make that gold.

Ted S
15 Feb 2008, 01:08
That depends. The hack was changed in 3.7 to make use of the Notices System which is a native feature for making welcome headers in vBulletin. You don't have to use that feature but if you do, an upgrade will be required.

chevy01xtreme
15 Feb 2008, 08:10
That depends. The hack was changed in 3.7 to make use of the Notices System which is a native feature for making welcome headers in vBulletin. You don't have to use that feature but if you do, an upgrade will be required.
so i would just have to upgrade then...

Ted S
15 Feb 2008, 15:39
so i would just have to upgrade then...
The 3.7 version is a complete rewrite so you'll need to save any custom phrases before upgrading and there's one additional step to remove the old system but otherwise it's just an upgrade.

motoyen
16 Feb 2008, 05:05
On vbadvanced 3.0RC2 the URL for register is showing up as myboard.com/register
I need it to show as myboard.com/forum/register
How do I do that? Works fine in the forum.

**
Never mind I figured it out. I hard coded the links into the welcome message. Great hack BTW!

jeddahbikers
16 Feb 2008, 12:49
awesome ;)

Thanks

chevy01xtreme
17 Feb 2008, 03:18
by the way easy install. at first i was like dam it didnt work. but i had to log out first to see it lol

anyway after searching this thread i found it to add it to my homepage vbadvanced, now can i put a small space between the welcome header and the rest of my homepage. you will see what i mean at my site www.gsx-forum.com

chevy01xtreme
17 Feb 2008, 03:22
On vbadvanced 3.0RC2 the URL for register is showing up as myboard.com/register
I need it to show as myboard.com/forum/register
How do I do that? Works fine in the forum.

**
Never mind I figured it out. I hard coded the links into the welcome message. Great hack BTW!
how did you do this i am having the same problem?

nevermind after searching in this thread i found the answer

chevy01xtreme
17 Feb 2008, 03:40
<!-- google_ad_section_start(weight=ignore) -->
<!-- google_ad_section_end -->

i was reading this in this thread where would i add this i also use google adsense?

fancominc
17 Feb 2008, 07:44
Hi Ted,

I have a problem after installing the mod. The "Welcome Header System" did not appear in the Vb Options list. I deleted the lines of codes in the ForumHome, added the $welcomeheaders at the end of Header, and uploaded the xml file to Plugins>Manage Products. Did I do something wrong? Please help!

Thanks so much!

Best,
fancominc

chevy01xtreme
17 Feb 2008, 13:53
Hi Ted,

I have a problem after installing the mod. The "Welcome Header System" did not appear in the Vb Options list. I deleted the lines of codes in the ForumHome, added the $welcomeheaders at the end of Header, and uploaded the xml file to Plugins>Manage Products. Did I do something wrong? Please help!

Thanks so much!

Best,
fancominc
take teh welcome header out of that template and put it in the nav template at the end. and the welcome header should be near the bottem on the vb options list...

Peejay
17 Feb 2008, 14:50
Great stuff, just installed it. Fingers crossed it will encourage more to start posting as we get a lot of users sign up and visit regularly but just seem too shy to post. Many thanks for this :D

fancominc
17 Feb 2008, 15:58
take teh welcome header out of that template and put it in the nav template at the end. and the welcome header should be near the bottem on the vb options list...

Did you mean taking the $welcomeheaders out of header and put it in the nav_bar? I tried that and still did not work :(

chevy01xtreme
17 Feb 2008, 16:05
Did you mean taking the $welcomeheaders out of header and put it in the nav_bar? I tried that and still did not work :(
yea. all i did was remove the template out of forumhome. upload teh xml file and add the $welcomeheaders to teh nav bar. i refreshed everything and it was at the bottom of my vb options. i had to log out to see the welcome message because being logged in you cant see it...

chevy01xtreme
17 Feb 2008, 16:08
yea. all i did was remove the template out of forumhome. upload teh xml file and add the $welcomeheaders to teh nav bar. i refreshed everything and it was at the bottom of my vb options. i had to log out to see the welcome message because being logged in you cant see it...

i did a screen shot for you..

chevy01xtreme
17 Feb 2008, 16:12
ok fast question it seems i cant get this to work. in the post your first post message i am trying to change the link color to red and the gsx-forum.com to red and it dont want to work. i want teh inductions forums in red and teh gsx-rforum.com in red
here is the code

Hello <strong> <FONT COLOR="Red">{1}</font></strong>,<br />Our records indicate that you have never posted to our site before! Why not make your first post today by saying hello to our community in our <a href="http://www.gsx-rforum.com/forum/forumdisplay.php?f=19"><strong><FONT OLOR="Red">Introductions forum.</font></strong></a> <br /><br /> Why not start with your first post today and become an active part of <strong> <FONT COLOR"Red">{2}</font></strong> now!

image one is what it looks like
image 2 is what i did for teh guest message where the links are red.

Ted S
17 Feb 2008, 18:02
<!-- google_ad_section_start(weight=ignore) -->
<!-- google_ad_section_end -->

i was reading this in this thread where would i add this i also use google adsense?
No. Those comment tags simply tell google to ignore the welcome headers in their adsense spidering (to help keep ads more relevant). You would want to put the ads either directly into each welcome header table or below or above the entire system depending on your needs.

Ted S
17 Feb 2008, 18:03
Did you mean taking the $welcomeheaders out of header and put it in the nav_bar? I tried that and still did not work :(

Have you added the variable to each style? Are you viewing your forums as a guest to test?

chevy01xtreme
17 Feb 2008, 19:21
No. Those comment tags simply tell google to ignore the welcome headers in their adsense spidering (to help keep ads more relevant). You would want to put the ads either directly into each welcome header table or below or above the entire system depending on your needs.
so i would put this where i put the adsense code? above or below it?. i have the adsense code in my footer and on my vbadvanced homepage?

Ted S
17 Feb 2008, 23:42
You put the adsense code where you want it to appear... it's up to you.

chevy01xtreme
18 Feb 2008, 01:28
You put the adsense code where you want it to appear... it's up to you.
i am not talking about teh adsense code. i already placed that code. i just asked where do i put this code
<!-- google_ad_section_start(weight=ignore) -->
adsense goes here?
<!-- google_ad_section_end -->

do i put it where i placed the adsense code? or do i placed this inbetween teh adsense code?

Ted S
18 Feb 2008, 01:46
You don't touch it. As I explained before, that code is to tell adsense google to ignore the welcome headers in its spidering.

chevy01xtreme
18 Feb 2008, 02:16
You don't touch it. As I explained before, that code is to tell adsense google to ignore the welcome headers in its spidering.
i know what you are saying all i am asking is where you placed the code. that was it. i dont have that code on my site i would like to add it but i was wondering where would i add it so the spiders ignore teh welcome headers

chevy01xtreme
18 Feb 2008, 02:17
ted s or someone help me with post 1220 in this thread and make some of the text red and see if i added teh code right so i can do that

Ted S
18 Feb 2008, 03:22
i know what you are saying all i am asking is where you placed the code. that was it. i dont have that code on my site i would like to add it but i was wondering where would i add it so the spiders ignore teh welcome headers
You've lost me. The code comes with the default install, don't delete it, don't change it unless you have a reason to. If you have removed it, it starts at the top of welcome header, ends at the bottom.

Ted S
18 Feb 2008, 03:23
ted s or someone help me with post 1220 in this thread and make some of the text red and see if i added teh code right so i can do that
Instructions on how to edit the phrases are included with the install file. If you don't know HTML to format text, take a look at www.w3schools.com

chevy01xtreme
18 Feb 2008, 04:46
You've lost me. The code comes with the default install, don't delete it, don't change it unless you have a reason to. If you have removed it, it starts at the top of welcome header, ends at the bottom.
didnt know this
<!-- google_ad_section_start(weight=ignore) -->
<!-- google_ad_section_end -->

code was included with the welcome header install. i thought it was something to be added. sorry

mastertek2000
19 Feb 2008, 11:29
Great Mod Thanks Installed

Undertaker #59
21 Feb 2008, 20:51
Nice mod. I had seen this installed somewhere else and thought it was a great idea.

Installed.

chevy01xtreme
25 Feb 2008, 16:59
question is there a way to put a space between the welcome header on my vbadvanced page so it dont look like one...

have a look www.gsx-rforum.com

Ted S
25 Feb 2008, 17:26
question is there a way to put a space between the welcome header on my vbadvanced page so it dont look like one...

have a look www.gsx-rforum.com
Modify the template welcome_headers however you like...

Ascended
25 Feb 2008, 17:41
Amazing Work

TheoForum
27 Feb 2008, 17:38
Thank you! This is a wonderful improvement!

jpapadpapa
01 Mar 2008, 01:04
Thanks for this great hack, Ted! I love it! (By the way, do you ever get over to The Admin Zone any more? It's been a while since I've been there, but I remember seeing you).

Anyway, I have a question for you. I'm in the process of setting up the forums for our homeschool group. Our registered members will have the option of joining either a free preview membership usergroup or signing up for the full paid subscription that gives them more access and features. What I am wanting to do is prompt those in the Preview Members usergroup to sign up rather than just continuing to preview indefinitely. Is there a way to add a header after a Preview Member has not signed up for a paid subscription after X amount of time?

Thanks!:)

Ted S
01 Mar 2008, 20:03
jpapadpapa,

Thanks for the feedback and yes, you can find me at The Admin Zone.

As far as your question, the best solution I can think of without doing more serious coding would be to check if the user is not in your support group(s) and how long it has been since they first joined. This would address most people although someone who supported then dropped out would see the message as well.

dbtp
02 Mar 2008, 02:18
This is pretty sweet. Thank you!

Rideharder
02 Mar 2008, 03:41
hmmmmm sweet it works!:D

militarytuners
02 Mar 2008, 04:41
We'll ssee how it works.

jpapadpapa
04 Mar 2008, 10:36
jpapadpapa,

Thanks for the feedback and yes, you can find me at The Admin Zone.

As far as your question, the best solution I can think of without doing more serious coding would be to check if the user is not in your support group(s) and how long it has been since they first joined. This would address most people although someone who supported then dropped out would see the message as well.

Thanks for the reply, Ted! I would love it if this functionality could be something you add in the future. Any chance? Or is that a lot of coding?

Ted S
04 Mar 2008, 15:33
That's not something I foresee the majority of users using so no, it's not likely to be included. Welcome Headers is really intended to be a framework which you should customize to meet your own forum's needs... with 3.7 comes a notices system which will enable you to setup welcome messages without knowing any code so that may be something you want to look into.

jpapadpapa
04 Mar 2008, 16:00
That's not something I foresee the majority of users using so no, it's not likely to be included.

Yeah, you're probably right.

Thanks, I'll look into other options. :)

Ted S
04 Mar 2008, 18:51
Well since you were so polite here's some [untested] code...


<if condition="(($bbuserinfo['joindate'] - (86400 * 30)) < TIMENOW) AND !is_member_of($bbuserinfo, X)">
Message Goes Here
</if>
<if condition="$welcomehdr = '1'"></if>


Open the existing template welcome_headers and find:

<if condition="$vboptions[wlhguest] AND $show['guest']">

Place this code above that line and change the line to:

<if condition="$vboptions[wlhguest] AND $show['guest'] AND !$welcomehdr">

Change X to the supporting member group or enter a list of groups like 1,2,3,4 to have the message not show for multiple supporting options, mods, admins, etc...

Change 30 to the number of days.

Let me know if you run into issues. Be sure to test!

mariocaz
05 Mar 2008, 05:49
Excellent and useful mod!!!

Konstantinos
05 Mar 2008, 05:58
got a problem with the COPPA msg . it displayes the never posted msg instead. how to fix this ?

GlowHost.com
05 Mar 2008, 08:20
This mod does not support BBCode?

When using [ url ]foo[ /url ] tags no link is dispayed, only raw code.

For example:
vB options > Welcome Headers > Enable Never Posted Message > "click here" ( to edit phrade)

Here is the default:

Hello {1},<br />Our records indicate that you have never posted to our site before! Why not make your first post today by saying hello to our community in our Introductions forum. <br /><br /> Why not start with your first post today and become an active part of {2} now!


I simply wanted to link the Introduction Forum, based on the default text above, so that it was not a mystery for new users how to introduce themselves, and so they could easily begin posting.

Did I do something wrong by doing this?:


Hello {1},<br />Our records indicate that you have never posted to our site before! Why not make your first post today by saying hello to our community in our [ url=http://whatever.com/some/post/la/la/la/foo.php ]Introductions forum. [ /url ]<br /><br /> Why not start with your first post today and become an active part of {2} now!

I have bolded the bbcode responsible. Am I using the incorrect syntax or was bbcode overlooked in this module?

Ted S
05 Mar 2008, 15:19
This mod does not support BBCode?
When using [ url ]foo[ /url ] tags no link is dispayed, only raw code.

For example:
vB options > Welcome Headers > Enable Never Posted Message > "click here" ( to edit phrade)

I have bolded the bbcode responsible. Am I using the incorrect syntax or was bbcode overlooked in this module?

Templates use HTML. This is true of all templates and is not unique to welcome headers.

If you want to style the messages, use HTML.

Ted S
05 Mar 2008, 15:21
got a problem with the COPPA msg . it displayes the never posted msg instead. how to fix this ?

What is the ID of your Coppa group?