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Zoints
23 Sep 2006, 11:54
********Please do not use this modification unless you are VERY well educated on SEO and forum modification********

Zoints is a company that believes that forums are the killer application of the internet. We want to empower forum owners to take their community to the next level. Therefore, Zoints has been developing an extremely powerful vBulletin forum SEO and revenue enhancing solution for more than two years now. However, because we are focusing on our Forum Network (http://www.vbulletin.org/forum/showthread.php?t=126669) and Thread Tagging System (http://www.vbulletin.org/forum/showthread.php?t=127244), we have decided to release this SEO solution to the vBulletin community under the lgpl license. Zoints SEO is now open source and NOT supported by us. We hope that the vBulletin dev community comes together to take this already powerful solution and make it even better. Empower yourselves :cool:

Zoints SEO can be discussed here or http://network.zoints.com (again, we will not be providing official support).


Known bugs

1. If a user disables cookies, infinite redirect loop.
2. index2, index3 pagination breaks some things. Standard p2, p3 works fine.


Zoints SEO is currently incompatible with: POSSIBLE FIX. PLEASE TRY THIS (http://www.vbulletin.org/forum/showpost.php?p=1107193&postcount=260) AND REPORT BACK. THANK YOU!
1. Incompatibility with vBA Gallery link.
2. Incompatibility with vBA Links
3. Improper linking from vBA CMPS Recent threads
4. Google Maps
5. Non english characters - Character replacement is now available.


Without further ado:

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Zoints
23 Sep 2006, 11:55
Zoints SEO Explained

Zoints SEO has been in development for a couple of years now. It is an amalgamation of various modifications made to a Big-Board that helped it get to that status. This SEO modification was created with very large boards in mind but should help small forums too.

As you are about to find out, Zoints SEO is very poorly named. If we were going to use a descriptive title, it would be called, "Zoints Search Engine Optimization, Revenue Enhancement, and Lots O' More Members Joining". However, that doesn't quite have the ring that "Zoints SEO" does and our marketing department (which does not actually exist) won out. Prior to installing any SEO modification, you should educate yourself as much as possible regarding SEO. I say this because there are a lot changes you can make that will hurt you. But PLEASE be careful, the statistical probability that the person claiming to know about SEO actually knows a damn thing and isn't just spewing forth garbage they read on a message board is very low. God knows I am not an SEO expert, Zoints is NOT an SEO company, and 98% of the people who claim to be knowledgeable should be run away from very quickly. Two good sites to learn FACTS:

1. http://www.mattcutts.com/blog/
2. Google Webmaster Guidelines (http://www.google.com/support/webmasters/bin/answer.py?answer=35769)


The Features and Settings of Zoints SEO

After properly installing Zoints SEO, you will be presented with the following options in your admincp:
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As with any decent script, Zoints SEO can be turned on or off with a single click. Even better, each time you turn it on, an angel gets their wings.
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A 301 redirect is the proper way to redirect a user to a new url. If you change your urls from showthread.php?t=#### to something else and DON'T utilize a 301 redirect, then old links are going to end up going to a 404. That's very bad. Select yes here :)
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Zoints SEO has three primary options for URL rewriting:

1. No URL rewriting
2. URL rewriting without mod_rewrite. Why use this? If you want to insert keywords in the url but don't have mod_rewrite available or don't want to expend the resources (using mod_rewrite is server intensive and slows page generation) then this is a viable solution.
3. The mod_rewrite everyone knows and prefers.

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A lot of people like to use the vBulletin archive as a sitemap. If you're going to do that, you might as well name is sitemap, right?
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If you choose to utilize keywords in your URL, you have two choices of how to separate the words:

1. keyword-in-url.html
2. keyword_in_url.html
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If you choose to utilize keywords in the url, then sometimes thread titles can be way too long. This option truncates the number of keywords in the url to however many you want.
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Stopwords are words that the search engines don't care about all that much. You can turn on the removal of stopwords you list with this option.
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This is a great picture. Any true SEO will agree that hippos are the cutest animals ever.
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If you add stopwords to the box below, they will not be listed in any urls. For example, if you have a thread title of "My dogs likes to walk" and "to" as a stopword, then the url would be /my-dog-likes-walk.html
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This option allows you to set meta keywords on a forum by forum basis. Now, I am of the opinion that meta keywords are deprecated. If search engines are still taking them into account in their algorithms, then I weep for the state of internet technologies. Why did we include this? Because someone somewhere would scream and cry and claim they heard from their uncle's friend's grandma's cousin's daughter who built a high ranked geocities page that the reason it was ranked high was the meta keywords.
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This is the page that allows you to insert meta keywords on a forum by forum basis. That way if you have a forum about dogs, all the threads can have keywords about dogs. And if you have another forum about cats, all the keywords there can be about hippos because hippos are better than cats anyway.
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Zoints SEO also lets you set custom meta descriptions on a forum by forum basis, use the vBulletin default, OR populate the meta description with the first X words of a thread.
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If you choose to populate the meta description with the first X words of a thread, this option lets you choose how many.
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Should you decide to set the meta descriptions on a forum by forum basis, you will utilize this screen:
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Have you ever noticed that vBulletin has domain.com/forums and domain.com/forums/index.php? That's theoretically bad. That's bad because it dilutes your incoming links. Some people will link to domain.com/forums and others will link to domain.com/forums/index.php?. This option gets rid of the index.php so that you just have the clean url.
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As stated earlier, Zoints SEO was build with large forums in mind. Have you ever been on a large forum with 20,000 threads in a single subforum and getting to page 73 of 452 was an exercise in futility? Well, the search engines want to get there too so they can efficiently crawl your content. And they also want you to have less than 100 links per page. We therefore came up with this:
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What does the "all" option above add?
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The "all" link makes life much easier for our friendly search engine bots to get to all of your content in an efficient manner while maintaining less than 100 links per page.
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As previously stated, Zoints is much more than just an SEO script. We all know about the very popular "welcome headers" hack that says, "Hi guest, welcome to hippotalk.com, the forum for those who think hippos are very cute. Register or we will poke you with a pointy stick". It's a great hack, but it's not good enough. To increase guest registration rates, you must speak to them. The feature below allows you to write custom guest messages on a forum by forum basis. In other words, if a guest is viewing a subforum on thread in a forum about dogs, you can say, "Hi guest, if you are interested in dogs, then register already!". If another guest is viewing your cat forum threads, they can see something like, "Hi there, why do you like cats? Register and lets talk about it."
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The default guest message title:
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The default guest message:
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You can then set the guest messages on a forum by forum basis on this screen. This lets you target your messages and have more relevant content :cool:
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This is another trick of the trade. You know all those "no permission" messages people are forever getting? Now you can set them on a forum by forum basis too. This lets you write custom no message pages and direct bots to new areas of your site...
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The default no permission messages:
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The screen that lets you set no permission messages on a forum by forum basis:
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If you want to use the archive as a sitemap, this option does that.
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The option below is one of those aimed at large forums. It is 100% impossible for large forums to have less than 100 links on their default archive pages. Zoints figured out a new navigation methodology that allows just that :cool:
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A simple setting that determines how many archive links per page:
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Ok, here we got a little crazy. Try and follow me here. We created a "thread decay" system. Basically, for threads older than X days, guests will be taken to a different version of the page. This different version might have more ads, might have less graphics, etc.
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If you choose to decay to a style, this is where you choose which one:
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This is the setting for X where any thread older than X decays.
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vBulletin changed their archive between 3.5.3 and 3.5.4. The automatic detection fails sometimes so this is where you can switch.
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Have you ever tried to place ads in your archive? If so, you know that unless you're a good programmer, it is a pain in the butt. Well, Zoints decided to make it simple with these settings:

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And that is Zoints SEO in a nutshell.



Frequently Asked Questions

Q. Is Zoints SEO better than vBSEO?

A. The folks over at vBSEO (http://www.vbseo.com) are pretty darn smart people who have developed what has turned into an excellent product. If you're looking for a quality SUPPORTED solution, you should look over there. Zoints SEO does some things better than vBSEO and vBSEO does many things better than Zoints SEO. Each product has its advantages. It really depends what you're looking for in a product.


Q. You were kidding about not supporting Zoints SEO, right?

A. No.


Q. Are there any bugs in Zoints SEO?

A. Zoints SEO has been tested on dozens of forums (including many Big-Boards) for a LONG time. There may be a few bugs around, but it is a very stable product with proven results.


Q. I have this problem with Zoints SEO, will you help?

A. No.


Q. Uhhh, you do realize you could have sold this for a decent amount of money, right?

A. Yes, but then we would have to support it. Zoints is not an SEO company. Our core focus is our forum network (http://zoints.com) and various supporting solutions.


Q. So I can package Zoints SEO up and sell it as a commercial product right?

A. Nope.

DementedMindz
23 Sep 2006, 12:30
DChapman very nice work nice to see a free Seo product coming out as nice as this.

Neal-UK
23 Sep 2006, 12:57
Shame you will not support this, I get all kind of errors when i turn url rewrite on, and i've edited the .htaccess file correctly.

Zoints
23 Sep 2006, 13:07
Shame you will not support this, I get all kind of errors when i turn url rewrite on, and i've edited the .htaccess file correctly.

Well, since you use the Zoints Network, please post here (http://network.zoints.com/forumdisplay.php?f=35) with the following information:

1. Forum url ZSEO is installed on
2. What errors you're receiving
3. What version of mysql you're using.

I'll then assign an engineer to the problem and see what we can do for you. :)

Zoints
23 Sep 2006, 13:08
DChapman very nice work nice to see a free Seo product coming out as nice as this.

Thank you for your kind words :)

Snake
23 Sep 2006, 13:25
Wow sounds like something. Will check this out soon. ;)

nimonogi
23 Sep 2006, 13:28
After installing an error appear at the top of every page:
Warning: Wrong parameter count for strrpos() in /includes/init.php(317) : eval()'d code on line 31

and when trying to access a thread:
vBulletin Message:
Unable to add cookies, header already sent.
File: /home/core/public_html/includes/class_core.php
Line: 3023

However the URLs are rewrited and the sitemap work fine.

I'm using the .htaccess mod_rewrite option without the custom meta descriptions and keywords.

Zoints
23 Sep 2006, 13:38
Errors.

Please post the same information requested from Neal. Thanks.

Moparx
23 Sep 2006, 15:24
If you dont accept cookies for a site that is using this you get on infinite redirect loop and can't access the pages. However, If you accept cookies it works just fine.

tazB.ca
23 Sep 2006, 17:00
thanks a lot for this !!!

daloosaa
23 Sep 2006, 17:28
Hi,

i've installed this mod on a fresh vBulletin 3.6.1 (Template: steel purple) and configured it.
I've rurned on "Adding an "all" link to your page navigation allows ALL forum pages and thread pages to be accessible via a single page. This is very efficient for search engines AND users.". But there isn't any "ALL"-Link
Also the copyright will not be shown.

All template changes are correct (double checked).

Greets, Florian

nimonogi
23 Sep 2006, 17:36
I have Re-Install my forum and try to import this hack from the beginning and i'm still getting the same errors!

DChapman, If there any chance this problem occurred by the MySQL vesrion i'm using?
Has anybody installed this hack on a 4.0.27-standard version?

Thanks.

KoC
23 Sep 2006, 17:57
Thanks for this very nice product. Its GPL licensed and we can download it for free. vbseo out Zoint IN

Masiello
23 Sep 2006, 17:57
Hm, sounds like a risks In a big forums for not supported product, and for the vBulletin versions if that product aren't upgrade and the board need?
A lot of question's about that.

But thank you for sharing this fantastic work

Brandon Sheley
23 Sep 2006, 19:02
any demo ?

btw, post one says no support, then post 5 offers support ?

KevNJ
23 Sep 2006, 19:20
does this make it so you can type"

website.com/username

instead of

website.com/forums/username ?

realgoldtalk
23 Sep 2006, 20:16
FULL BUGY MOD ALL I CAN SAY LET ME KNOW WHEN STABLE VERSION IS RELEASED!
Saad

SuperFly
23 Sep 2006, 21:25
Real you dont listen dont you, this is all their doing, fix it yourself like some others.

Brandon Sheley
23 Sep 2006, 21:43
Real you dont listen dont you, this is all their doing, fix it yourself like some others.
actually, it looks like you can go to their site to get help ;)

Well, since you use the Zoints Network, please post here (http://network.zoints.com/forumdisplay.php?f=35) with the following information:

1. Forum url ZSEO is installed on
2. What errors you're receiving
3. What version of mysql you're using.

I'll then assign an engineer to the problem and see what we can do for you. :)

WritersBeat
23 Sep 2006, 21:57
Uhh, this is not a buggy mod. If you're getting bugs you just don't know what the hell you're doing.

Writer's Beat has this mod and it's so clean and bug-free. I have no idea what you're talking about.

Writer's Beat is also 3.6.1, have tried this with 3.5.x

http://www.writersbeat.com for demo *shrug* - no problems.

iChambers
23 Sep 2006, 22:10
What are the advantages for Zoint SEO over vBSEO for you said both have their advantages I just wondering what Zoint's are over vBSEO?

redstaing.net
23 Sep 2006, 22:35
cool man real cool i have ins it man cool i have wait for the hack along time man

Bubble #5
23 Sep 2006, 22:48
What are the advantages for Zoint SEO over vBSEO
Yes this is a good question. I don't doubt that it's true, just wondering about the specifics ;)

RichieBoy67
23 Sep 2006, 23:00
I love this mod... working perfectly!! See it in action at www.talkandmore.net

redlabour
23 Sep 2006, 23:14
Installed, edited .htaccess, checked Templates, checked Configuration - only a white Page is shown up at index.php.

Does not work for me - 3.6.1 !

nimonogi
23 Sep 2006, 23:14
I had the same problem with RichieBoy67 and i re-installed the hole site and manually rebuild my database... and as for the support on their forums.... there isn't any support, they don't even reply.

redlabour
23 Sep 2006, 23:18
Hands off for me - a free Hack under the LGPL was a nice Idea - but only if there was Support before a Community is growing up.

Adrian Schneider
23 Sep 2006, 23:27
DChapman,

It's nice to see that you showing respect to the makers of vBSEO. A little kindness goes a long way. Hopefully a bunch of people will take up support for this, as it looks like a great free alternative.

DementedMindz
23 Sep 2006, 23:29
I had the same problem with RichieBoy67 and i re-installed the hole site and manually rebuild my database... and as for the support on their forums.... there isn't any support, they don't even reply.


I think there engineers feel asleep or just simply dont plan on replying.

Bubble #5
23 Sep 2006, 23:32
I do have a heavily modified site... I was just a little insulted after reading a post like that...
So let's get this straight, you installed a hack made specifically for 3.6.1 on a heavily modified forum that's only 3.5.3, and when it doesn't work you complain? :rolleyes: It would be more surprising if it did work ;)

Zoints
23 Sep 2006, 23:36
DChapman, If there any chance this problem occurred by the MySQL vesrion i'm using?


That would be my guess.

Zoints
23 Sep 2006, 23:42
any demo ?

http://forums.livingwithstyle.com

btw, post one says no support, then post 5 offers support ?

He utilizes the Zoints Network. We take care of our own. And we want this to work for as many people as possible. If there are minor bugs, you guys can fix them. If there is a mysql incompatibility, we'll get stuff like that fixed.

Zoints
23 Sep 2006, 23:43
Hm, sounds like a risks In a big forums for not supported product, and for the vBulletin versions if that product aren't upgrade and the board need?
A lot of question's about that.

But thank you for sharing this fantastic work

Indeed. But the hope is that the community would come together to make the necessary changes. That's the point of open source. I think the vBulletin.org community has become too reliant on a few programmers lately. People need to start to work together.

RichieBoy67
23 Sep 2006, 23:46
My site is 3.6.1 and I am not complaining about the product. I am complaining about some of the attitudes in this thread....

Zoints
23 Sep 2006, 23:53
I think there engineers feel asleep or just simply dont plan on replying.

It's Saturday and yes, our guys fell asleep ;). I have an engineer sitting next to me who is playing World of Warcraft after putting in more than 75 hours of coding in the last 5 days.

And it sounds like the bug is php related. If you're running php 5, you'll be fine. php 4 returns those errors. Thanks to Danny for figuring that out. And yes, i'm sure we'll have a fix for this once some more monsters are slain ;)

Adrian Schneider
23 Sep 2006, 23:53
Warning: Wrong parameter count for strrpos() in /includes/init.php(292) : eval()'d code on line 226

Warning: Division by zero in /includes/functions.php(4367) : eval()'d code on line 96

Warning: Division by zero in /includes/functions.php(4367) : eval()'d code on line 124 Look at functions.php (the line specified) and see what's there. If its a hook, check any plugins that use the hook for the line specified. If it's a template, check that line of the template.

Zoints
23 Sep 2006, 23:55
How about a little help instead of insults....

I agree.

Guys, this is an open source product that can become something really amazing if you all work together. Everyone's configuration is going to be a little different. There are going to be bugs. Come together and take this already excellent solution to the next level.

goyo
23 Sep 2006, 23:57
And it sounds like the bug is php related. If you're running php 5, you'll be fine. php 4 returns those errors. Thanks to Danny for figuring that out. And yes, i'm sure we'll have a fix for this once some more monsters are slain ;)

Please put this in to the info file. Most of the people here has php 4 (not php5) installed on their servers...

RichieBoy67
24 Sep 2006, 00:01
Thanks.......

I am certain that the problems I am having are due to my configuration and once I get the right settings I will be fine....

Rich

iChambers
24 Sep 2006, 00:04
Is there a way to get a list of the advantages of Zoints SEO over vBSEO to properly determine which one that would best fit our website.

Zoints
24 Sep 2006, 00:07
Please put this in to the info file. Most of the people here has php 4 (not php5) installed on their servers...

We have a fix coming soon :)

Zoints
24 Sep 2006, 00:09
Thanks for the tips.... I will let you know in a few.. :)

Your issue is php related. GIve us 10 minutes, we're done killing monsters for now ;)

Zoints
24 Sep 2006, 00:12
Is there a way to get a list of the advantages of Zoints SEO over vBSEO to properly determine which one that would best fit our website.

If you were to go through both products' offering, what would you pick out for each?

RichieBoy67
24 Sep 2006, 00:12
Hey, I appreciate it but take your time... Kill some more monsters....lol It might take me longer but I am sure I can figure this out.... I do appreciate the support but no rush..... :)

By the way-- I am totally into the whole Zoints integration and I have installed the other related mods too.... Once I get this working I would be happy to demo any and all new integrations.. I really think this will be a boost for a forum like mine... My forum is more of a social arena and not so much topic oriented......


Thanks again...

iChambers
24 Sep 2006, 00:33
I am not going to install Zoints SEO until I see if the advantages are benifits my website - you may the claim that is why I asked. Plus if you have a huge bug in PHP4 then I have no choice not to install it because I do run PHP4.

Zoints
24 Sep 2006, 00:37
Zoints SEO 2.2.1 has been uploaded.

This should fix the php version issues many of you are seeing. Overwrite everything. :)

Zoints
24 Sep 2006, 00:39
I am not going to install Zoints SEO until I see if the advantages are benifits my website - you may the claim that is why I asked. Plus if you have a huge bug in PHP4 then I have no choice not to install it because I do run PHP4.

Heheh, fair enough bud. I was just curious what you would pick out (most features can be seen via the admincp options).

Anyway, the php4 bugs were just fixed. I'll be going through tomorrow and explaining every feature of Zoints SEO in some detail and the SEO theory behind each feature. At that point some things will be more readily apparent.

RichieBoy67
24 Sep 2006, 00:45
Great, I am going to overwrite everything but I am afraid I will have to install manually.....


Thanks

RichieBoy67
24 Sep 2006, 00:48
I don't suppose you have a list of all the query?

Zoints
24 Sep 2006, 00:49
I don't suppose you have a list of all the query?

No queries were changed. Just a plugin.

Brandon Sheley
24 Sep 2006, 00:52
thanks for posting links to some demo sites, this will help myself and several others understand what this product can offer..

I would like an answer to "what this will do better then vBSEO that is posted in the first post"
I seen a reply to go through both products and look for yourself, but the thread stater claimed this, I think he should be the one posting this info..

Also, I have a few questions, will the old url's be 301'd to the new ones ?
is there a sitemap that will submit to google the re_written URL's ?
and one of the "demo" sites has session ID's s=423525252452525253 after the url's,, this is a big turnoff to me,, will this be an issue ? or does that site have some other SEO work to go, to remove session ID's..

thank you, and best of luck with the zoints SEO
-Brandon

RichieBoy67
24 Sep 2006, 00:53
all is good...

eNforce
24 Sep 2006, 00:57
I am a little confused. My site is totally down right now and I do not have access to the plug in system....

With the new update the product-zointsseo-2.2.1.xml doesn't have to be run? When it is run it does the quiri... That is what I was refering too... Overwriting the files did nothing for my site and my site is down so how do I work with the plug ins?

You can add:

define('DISABLE_HOOKS', true);

to your includes/config.php

It will at least let you access your site and disable problematic plugins (hopefully)

RichieBoy67
24 Sep 2006, 00:59
Ahh,

Thank you so much... I have been trying to come up with that for the last 20 minutes.. I just could not remember it... I was close but not that close....lol

Thanks

DementedMindz
24 Sep 2006, 01:05
Loco.M dont you have vbseo? You seem to ask the same questions each time about any seo rewrite product and try to point out bad parts.

Zoints
24 Sep 2006, 01:09
thanks for posting links to some demo sites, this will help myself and several others understand what this product can offer..

Not really. If you look in the first post, there are a TON of options and you would have to view source of the sites to see many of them in action. In addition, things like the archive ad management system which is included cannot be seen by viewing a forum.

I would like an answer to "what this will do better then vBSEO that is posted in the first post"
I seen a reply to go through both products and look for yourself, but the thread stater claimed this, I think he should be the one posting this info..

Some is fact, some is subjective. My real problem is that many people install SEO enhancements without having a clue about the SEO theory behind it. I could tell you X, Y, and Z is great about Zoints SEO, but are you going to believe me? Anyone who is well versed in SEO, programming, and monetization will quickly see the differences between the products based solely upon the screenshots and information in this thread.

I will be going through tomorrow and doing an extensive writeup. But frankly, i'm of the opinion that no SEO modifications should be installed unless you know WHY you are installing them. There isn't an SEO product on the market (Zoints SEO included) that in MY opinion doesn't have a couple features that can in fact hurt the performance of a forum. Zoints SEO is a fantastic piece of software, but I sure as hell wouldn't turn a couple of its features on. Algorithm updates happen constantly, if you're going to play with SEO, you better understand it.

Also, I have a few questions, will the old url's be 301'd to the new ones ?

Please check the screenshots posted in the first post.

is there a sitemap that will submit to google the re_written URL's ?
No.

and one of the "demo" sites has session ID's s=423525252452525253 after the url's,, this is a big turnoff to me,, will this be an issue ? or does that site have some other SEO work to go, to remove session ID's..

If they have session IDs then they aren't using any of the url changing features.

thank you, and best of luck with the zoints SEO

Thanks Brandon, but don't wish luck to us. Zoints SEO belongs to the vBulletin community now. Wish yourselves luck :)

Greek76
24 Sep 2006, 01:13
Well done , this mod will prove useful. I installed it with no problems as all of the Zoints mods with ease and Im a newbie lol. Good job!

RichieBoy67
24 Sep 2006, 02:39
Very strange and I do not understand it....

Right now I can access my admin cpanel and I have basically reinstalled this script. I am now getting a very strange error..

Fatal error: Call to undefined function: cache_ordered_forums() in /home/talkandm/public_html/index.php on line 496

This line is basically for the moderator columm...

I am going to go through the template edits and see if that is where the problem is.... I believe it is and it has to do with my style...

Thanks again for the help...

Rich

Ramsesx
24 Sep 2006, 02:59
Thanks a lot for this David.
There are two bugs so far, 1. on my pp vbgallery all is pointing now to the /forum directory instead to /gallery
2. The next and previous thread links are working not right.

Zia
24 Sep 2006, 05:50
hmm

whats the difference in between

vbSeo and Zoints SEO ?

letsjoy
24 Sep 2006, 06:28
why u not use this on ur own forums ?

Brandon Sheley
24 Sep 2006, 07:24
Loco.M dont you have vbseo? You seem to ask the same questions each time about any seo rewrite product and try to point out bad parts.
Yes I use vBSEO, but I have friends and clients that can't afford it right now, if this is a good product for them, I would suggest it..

Trust me, I'm not asking question to make you look bad, these questions I did ask I feel are important to someone who is considering Any url rewrite..


Not really. If you look in the first post, there are a TON of options and you would have to view source of the sites to see many of them in action. In addition, things like the archive ad management system which is included cannot be seen by viewing a forum.


actually demo links do help us understand, I don't see why your being negative about this..I certainly wasn't trying to be..

maybe you can post a link to the "big boards" that have been using it for long term ?



Some is fact, some is subjective. My real problem is that many people install SEO enhancements without having a clue about the SEO theory behind it. I could tell you X, Y, and Z is great about Zoints SEO, but are you going to believe me? Anyone who is well versed in SEO, programming, and monetization will quickly see the differences between the products based solely upon the screenshots and information in this thread.

I will be going through tomorrow and doing an extensive writeup. But frankly, i'm of the opinion that no SEO modifications should be installed unless you know WHY you are installing them. There isn't an SEO product on the market (Zoints SEO included) that in MY opinion doesn't have a couple features that can in fact hurt the performance of a forum. Zoints SEO is a fantastic piece of software, but I sure as hell wouldn't turn a couple of its features on. Algorithm updates happen constantly, if you're going to play with SEO, you better understand it.

I was just replying to your claim, you said there are some things zoints vbseo can do better, and some things vbseo can do better,, If you didn't have something to back this up, you shouldn't have said it.. ;)





Please check the screenshots posted in the first post.


thank you


No.


this would be a good suggest I think :)


If they have session IDs then they aren't using any of the url changing features.


oh, sorry, it had rewritten url's, and was in this thread, so I assumed it was using this mod..
btw,, there are more then one demo links that had session id's.


Thanks Brandon, but don't wish luck to us. Zoints SEO belongs to the vBulletin community now. Wish yourselves luck :)

um, okay then instead of good luck,, I'll say hope this works out good for you and the community ;)

project-Buckfas
24 Sep 2006, 11:15
Brilliant. Works perfect.

Thank DCChapman!

rogersnm
24 Sep 2006, 11:58
If you check the coding then you can see where it adds the session url and it should automatically be pruned off the url by vB anyway. If it's not then it's a problem with their board not with this mod.

But on the other hand the writers beat demo doesn't look to good: http://www.writersbeat.com/ xD

Neal-UK
24 Sep 2006, 12:24
On two of my sites, my forum index file is named forum.php, will this effect anything in the htaccess file, as I notice the location "index.php" in there.

nimonogi
24 Sep 2006, 12:44
I you have set DirectoryIndex forum.php in your .htaccess
I believe would work fine...

Hemanth
24 Sep 2006, 13:33
Good work man.. Thanks..

Neal-UK
24 Sep 2006, 14:53
I'm noticing people on Who is online viewing a location that comes up with invalid link: /forumdisplay.php/-.html?u=403

Neal-UK
24 Sep 2006, 16:11
This has also made my gallery and links stop working properly too, pointing to the wrong place. What do I need to alter in the htaccess file at all?

RichieBoy67
24 Sep 2006, 19:03
Well I finally got everything worked out last night. I ended up reinstalling 3.6.1 and that did the trick along with me undoing the other things the install script did.

I then reinstalled and did all the edits again manually and it seems to be working fine right now. I have my fingers crossed...

I believe what caused my problem was the Thread Decay System........

At any rate the script is running fine right now though I still have to test it's functionality.

I appreciate the time and effort that has been put towards this and towards helping me last night...

I believe the install would be much simpler on a standard vb site..

If anyone would like to test this product feel free to check out my site. You would be doing me a favor also because as I said, I have not checked the functionality yet.

I am creating a temporary user for everyone...

It is called

ZointSEo


password will be zoint

This will get you registered access...

Thanks

Ramsesx
24 Sep 2006, 19:18
Richieboy, don't see any difference, did you disabled it? (talkandmore)

rogersnm
24 Sep 2006, 20:53
here's a question. I am trying to set this up on my mates site and he wants to rewrite his advertise.php page. I just put RewriteRule ^(advertise.html)$ advertise.php [QSA,L] in his .htaccess file and now I can go to advertise.php and advertise.html but I can't get advertise.php to automatically redirect to advertise.html no matter what I try. Any Ideas?

joffer
25 Sep 2006, 00:46
Well ive installed and is working fine , except one thing - it doesnt post to zoint i added the auth key + token , ive tested the crontab it doesnt work
can anyone help me out ?

RichieBoy67
25 Sep 2006, 01:10
Richieboy, don't see any difference, did you disabled it? (talkandmore)

No, It is enabled but the decay system is disabled..

I have noticed some of the extra meta tags but that is all I have noticed so far.. I am trying to go through settings etc right now to see what else is missing...

Thanks

eNforce
25 Sep 2006, 01:27
Does vB installation come default with a .htaccess file?

The contents of my htaccess file is completely blank, could someone maybe post their entire .htaccess please? This might solve my SEO problem, I don't know but worth a try.

Adrian Schneider
25 Sep 2006, 01:48
Does vB installation come default with a .htaccess file?

The contents of my htaccess file is completely blank, could someone maybe post their entire .htaccess please? This might solve my SEO problem, I don't know but worth a try.
It's a server thing, not vB... I think you should have a default one, yes.

rogersnm
25 Sep 2006, 09:16
just insert the lines it tells you to insert. But you don't need to unless you choose use mod_rewrite in vb options.

Ramsesx
25 Sep 2006, 09:56
Nobody can tell how to change the .htaccess to exclude the /gallery folder?
Thanks

MusicMan
25 Sep 2006, 11:21
This is a wonderful hack that I've been using for a while now. It has developed into an amazing free SEO hack and it has been very helpful to my sites. While it may not be supported yet, if you guys have any questions about it, I'd be happy to try and help out however I can. I've used it for around 6+ months and am pretty familiar with its features and benefits. :)

*Clicked install*

MusicMan
25 Sep 2006, 11:28
Does vB installation come default with a .htaccess file?

The contents of my htaccess file is completely blank, could someone maybe post their entire .htaccess please? This might solve my SEO problem, I don't know but worth a try.
Here's the portion of my htaccess file that adds rewrite for zseo.

Options +FollowSymLinks
RewriteEngine on
RewriteCond %{HTTP_HOST} ^keepmusicalive\.com
RewriteRule ^(.*)$ http://www.keepmusicalive.com/$1 [R=permanent,L]
RewriteRule ^([a-z0-9_\-]*-(f|all)[0-9]+(p[0-9]+|/index[0-9]*)?\.html)$ forumdisplay.php/$1 [QSA,L]
RewriteRule ^([a-z0-9_\-]*-(t|p)[0-9]+(p[0-9]+|/index[0-9]*)?\.html)$ showthread.php/$1 [QSA,L]
RewriteCond %{REQUEST_URI} !(index\.php|\.css) [NC]
RewriteRule ^(archive|sitemap)/(.*)$ $1/index.php/$2 [QSA,L]

But it's important to note that I have enabled a 301 redirect that essentially directs all my homepage traffic (http://keepmusicalive.com, http://keepmusicalive.com/index.php, etc...) to be redirected to http://www.keepmusicalive.com which is the forumhome page at this domain. I've enabled the "redirect index.php" option in the ZSEO CP, and I've also enabled my archive to act as a sitemap and to be renamed as Sitemap.

So if your forumhome page is yourdomain.com/forums, or if you have different settings enabled, your htaccess will look differently than mine. ;)

Hornstar
25 Sep 2006, 11:32
Sounds like this will compete with vbseo and as this is open source im sure some others may help this come along, however I have to admit, im extremely happy with vbseo and there support. but im sure tons of vb people will find this usefull if they cant afford a paid solution.

Ramsesx
25 Sep 2006, 12:05
This is a wonderful hack that I've been using for a while now. It has developed into an amazing free SEO hack and it has been very helpful to my sites. While it may not be supported yet, if you guys have any questions about it, I'd be happy to try and help out however I can. I've used it for around 6+ months and am pretty familiar with its features and benefits. :)

*Clicked install*
Thanks for your help offer, you can tell me how to exclude the /gallery folder in the .htaccess?
B.t.w. on your site there's the same bug I have, the Previous Thread | Next Thread are not working right. Thanks

MusicMan
25 Sep 2006, 14:38
Thanks for your help offer, you can tell me how to exclude the /gallery folder in the .htaccess?
B.t.w. on your site there's the same bug I have, the Previous Thread | Next Thread are not working right. Thanks
Thanks, I've never had any reports of that before. It could very well be because I haven't upgraded to this latest version yet. I don't know if it contains a fix for what you reported, but I do need to upgrade.

I'll look through this thread to see exactly what you're wanting to do as far as excluding the /gallery folder.

EDIT: Ok, I found where you said that /gallery is redirecting to the /forums directory. Couple of questions for you....

1. Did this start when adding the Zoints SEO product or when you last edited your htaccess file?

2. Post or PM your htaccess file so I can look at it. Things will be a bit different since your forumhome root is yourdomain.com/forums, and requires a different type of redirect.

3. Just to clarify, are you only using the redirect to get rid of http:// versus http://www. PR splitting and dupe content, as well as getting rid of /index.php for the same purposes? Or are you also redirecting yourdomain.com to lead to yourdomain.com/forums?

I might not be able to help, but if you'll let me know what you're working with and what you're needing to do, I can at least give it a shot. :)

Ramsesx
25 Sep 2006, 15:28
Thanks, I've never had any reports of that before. It could very well be because I haven't upgraded to this latest version yet. I don't know if it contains a fix for what you reported, but I do need to upgrade.

I'll look through this thread to see exactly what you're wanting to do as far as excluding the /gallery folder.

EDIT: Ok, I found where you said that /gallery is redirecting to the /forums directory. Couple of questions for you....

1. Did this start when adding the Zoints SEO product or when you last edited your htaccess file?

2. Post or PM your htaccess file so I can look at it. Things will be a bit different since your forumhome root is yourdomain.com/forums, and requires a different type of redirect.

3. Just to clarify, are you only using the redirect to get rid of http:// versus http://www. PR splitting and dupe content, as well as getting rid of /index.php for the same purposes? Or are you also redirecting yourdomain.com to lead to yourdomain.com/forums?

I might not be able to help, but if you'll let me know what you're working with and what you're needing to do, I can at least give it a shot. :)
Thanks a lot MusicMan,
1. This only occur if I set Enable Zoints SEO to "yes" and have the original unchanged .htaccess
2. .htacces file is:



Options +FollowSymlinks
RewriteEngine on

RewriteRule ^(escort-gallery) - [L]
RewriteRule ^([a-z0-9_\-]*-(f|all)[0-9]+(p[0-9]+|/index[0-9]*)?\.html)$ forumdisplay.php/$1 [QSA,L]
RewriteRule ^([a-z0-9_\-]*-(t|p)[0-9]+(p[0-9]+|/index[0-9]*)?\.html)$ showthread.php/$1 [QSA,L]
RewriteCond %{REQUEST_URI} !(index\.php|\.css) [NC]
RewriteRule ^(archive|sitemap)/(.*)$ $1/index.php/$2 [QSA,L]

The first line is added but not working, it's also not working (means it still points to the forum directory) with the original file.
3. Don't know what you mean, use it only for the zoints default settings + Rewrite URLs and insert keywords, (using mod_rewrite).
Thanks again.

L'ingegnere
25 Sep 2006, 16:06
Please who is going to help me... i download this mod.. but i want some information about .htaccess this file doesn't excist in my root. i am sure of this.. how can i create this file.. witch is the code that i must put and then the code of the Zoint seo where can i put???

Thank u

Ramsesx
25 Sep 2006, 16:13
Please who is going to help me... i download this mod.. but i want some information about .htaccess this file doesn't excist in my root. i am sure of this.. how can i create this file.. witch is the code that i must put and then the code of the Zoint seo where can i put???

Thank u
Load up the attached txt file to your server and rename it to .htaccess it is the code taken from the README.txt (it is recommended to read this).

L'ingegnere
25 Sep 2006, 16:28
Load up the attached txt file to your server and rename it to .htaccess it is the code taken from the README.txt (it is recommended to read this).

Thanks Ramsesx I read it but i thought that wasn't enough... becuse when i read: File: /.htaccess (If it does not exist, create it).. i thought that when i will create this file i was adding another code except this..

But thanks

L'ingegnere
25 Sep 2006, 17:03
So i did the installation but when i try to open a discussion it said:

The requested URL /forum/ggdxggh-f34.html was not found on this server.

--------------------------------------------------------------------------
Apache/2.2.2 (Fedora) DAV/2 FrontPage/5.0.2.2635 PHP/5.1.4 mod_python/3.2.8 Python/2.4.2 mod_ssl/2.2.2 OpenSSL/0.9.8a mod_perl/2.0.2 Perl/v5.8.8


Can anybody help me??

MusicMan
25 Sep 2006, 17:22
3. Don't know what you mean, use it only for the zoints default settings + Rewrite URLs and insert keywords, (using mod_rewrite).
Thanks again.

Ok, I'm not 100% sure of what all you're needing to do with your rewrites but here's what I see.

http://mc-escort.de has a PR0
http://www.mc-escort.de has a PR3, so it makes sense to go ahead and redirect to http://www instead of to http://

So, backup your current htaccess and give this one a shot. Replace everything you posted above with the following.

Options +FollowSymlinks
RewriteEngine on
RewriteCond %{HTTP_HOST} ^mc-escort\.de
RewriteRule ^(.*)$ http://www.mc-escort.de/$1 [R=permanent,L]
RewriteRule ^([a-z0-9_\-]*-(f|all)[0-9]+(p[0-9]+|/index[0-9]*)?\.html)$ forumdisplay.php/$1 [QSA,L]
RewriteRule ^([a-z0-9_\-]*-(t|p)[0-9]+(p[0-9]+|/index[0-9]*)?\.html)$ showthread.php/$1 [QSA,L]
RewriteCond %{REQUEST_URI} !(index\.php|\.css) [NC]
RewriteRule ^(archive|sitemap)/(.*)$ $1/index.php/$2 [QSA,L]

It may or may not work exactly like you're wanting, but it's worth a shot. Let me know if that fixes the /gallery redirecting to /forums.

L'ingegnere
25 Sep 2006, 17:37
I think i found the error.. in zoint seo option is: Rewrite URLs when i chose the third one i can't open my forum.. but when i chose the second without mode_rewrite it works so i want to know how can i mak this to work for the .htaccess file I upload on root the file that Ramsesx gives to me(post #87).. So does anybody know what can I do

Thank u to everbody

MusicMan
25 Sep 2006, 17:57
I think i found the error.. in zoint seo option is: Rewrite URLs when i chose the third one i can't open my forum.. but when i chose the second without mode_rewrite it works so i want to know how can i mak this to work for the .htaccess file I upload on root the file that Ramsesx gives to me(post #87).. So does anybody know what can I do

Thank u to everbody
Read the ReadMe file included in the zip and it will tell you what to add to your htaccess in order to use the mod_rewrite option. ;)

rogersnm
25 Sep 2006, 18:04
Anybody know about custom rewrite rules with and without mod_rewrite? Maybe it will be in the documentation when he writes it...

L'ingegnere
25 Sep 2006, 18:06
Read the ReadMe file included in the zip and it will tell you what to add to your htaccess in order to use the mod_rewrite option. ;)


I create an .htaccess with code:

Options +FollowSymlinks
RewriteEngine on



RewriteRule ^([a-z0-9_\-]*-(f|all)[0-9]+(p[0-9]+|/index[0-9]*)?\.html)$ forumdisplay.php/$1 [QSA,L]
RewriteRule ^([a-z0-9_\-]*-(t|p)[0-9]+(p[0-9]+|/index[0-9]*)?\.html)$ showthread.php/$1 [QSA,L]
RewriteCond %{REQUEST_URI} !(index\.php|\.css) [NC]
RewriteRule ^(archive|sitemap)/(.*)$ $1/index.php/$2 [QSA,L]




but it doesn't work:confused: Where is the mistake

Thak u for your answer

rogersnm
25 Sep 2006, 18:11
looks fine to me. Did you pick mod_rewrite?

SportsZone
25 Sep 2006, 18:13
Awesome! I just edited the .htaccess file to enable the URL mod_rewrite, and the the forum/thread URL's are looking a lot better!

Thanks guys :)

L'ingegnere
25 Sep 2006, 18:22
looks fine to me. Did you pick mod_rewrite?

No.. i dont know where is the mistake


Awesome! I just edited the .htaccess file to enable the URL mod_rewrite, and the the forum/thread URL's are looking a lot better!

Thanks guys

Can u post here your code of .htaccess please

SportsZone
25 Sep 2006, 18:27
Can u post here your code of .htaccess please

Sure. This code was made by MusicMan (thanks Glenn!) and you need to simply changed the URL on the 4th line to your sites address. I have no idea about .htaccess so I have no idea if anything else should go in this file!!

[code]
Options +FollowSymlinks
RewriteEngine on
RewriteRule ^([a-z0-9_\-]*-(f|all)[0-9]+(p[0-9]+|/index[0-9]*)?\.html)$ forumdisplay.php/$1 [QSA,L]
RewriteRule ^([a-z0-9_\-]*-(t|p)[0-9]+(p[0-9]+|/index[0-9]*)?\.html)$ showthread.php/$1 [QSA,L]
RewriteCond %{REQUEST_URI} !(index\.php|\.css) [NC]
RewriteRule ^(archive|sitemap)/(.*)$ $1/index.php/$2 [QSA,L]

MusicMan
25 Sep 2006, 18:28
No.. i dont know where is the mistake

That is your mistake. You're supposed to pick mod_rewrite if you've edited your htaccess to enable mod_rewrite.

L'ingegnere
25 Sep 2006, 18:49
It doesn't work again.. I dont know bhooo

gothicuser
25 Sep 2006, 19:41
One small observation. All seems to be perfectly hunky dory, apart from when accessing threads from the 'Recent Threads' in vBAdvanced.
From within the forums a typical URL will display as
hxxp://www.cornishserver.com/forum/welcome-member-no-t2149.html
But visiting the same post, but from the vBAdvanced recent threads it looks like
hxxp://www.cornishserver.com/forum/welcome-member-no-t2149.html?p=11086#p11086
Doesn't seem to break anything, but a curiosity all the same!

MusicMan
25 Sep 2006, 19:48
It doesn't work again.. I dont know bhooo
Got your PM and sent one back, explained that you have to replace the example url's with your site's urls. If you still need help, post or PM your url and I'll insert it for you. :)

MusicMan
25 Sep 2006, 19:56
One small observation. All seems to be perfectly hunky dory, apart from when accessing threads from the 'Recent Threads' in vBAdvanced.
From within the forums a typical URL will display as
hxxp://www.cornishserver.com/forum/welcome-member-no-t2149.html
But visiting the same post, but from the vBAdvanced recent threads it looks like
hxxp://www.cornishserver.com/forum/welcome-member-no-t2149.html?p=11086#p11086
Doesn't seem to break anything, but a curiosity all the same!
Do the links on the vbadvanced page point to a particular post or the last post in the thread, whereas the forum doesn't? The p=11086 looks like a postid to me and is normal. I see it at my forum and it just refers to a particular post. http://www.keepmusicalive.com/showthread.php?p=24014#post24014

These types of links aren't too common, but are more likely seen on search results or syndication type feeds, which your vbadvanced is probably using to display recent threads/posts.

gothicuser
25 Sep 2006, 20:21
Do the links on the vbadvanced page point to a particular post or the last post in the thread, whereas the forum doesn't? The p=11086 looks like a postid to me and is normal. I see it at my forum and it just refers to a particular post. http://www.keepmusicalive.com/showthread.php?p=24014#post24014

These types of links aren't too common, but are more likely seen on search results or syndication type feeds, which your vbadvanced is probably using to display recent threads/posts.
The title link points to the thread, but there is a link to most recent reply. As I said, nothing seems to be broken so am not concerned at all.
Many thanks for the reply :D

rezapci
25 Sep 2006, 22:24
thank you

nimonogi
26 Sep 2006, 02:10
2.2.1 version rocks! :)

I was too scared to try install this mod again but finally I did it and works great!
Thanks DChapman!

rezapci
26 Sep 2006, 02:46
DChapman

why my archive is not appearing in full!? http://www.alshiatalk.com/vb/archive

Zoints
26 Sep 2006, 02:53
DChapman

why my archive is not appearing in full!? http://www.alshiatalk.com/vb/archive

In the admincp > Zoints SEO options, scroll to the very bottom and for archive version, select 3.5.4 or later and hit save.

Lionel
26 Sep 2006, 05:13
I'm noticing people on Who is online viewing a location that comes up with invalid link: /forumdisplay.php/-.html?u=403

This has also made my gallery and links stop working properly too, pointing to the wrong place. What do I need to alter in the htaccess file at all?

I wonder if those issues have been solved. This is what's holding me fom installing.

Zoints
26 Sep 2006, 08:54
I wonder if those issues have been solved. This is what's holding me fom installing.

We will solve them. We're committed to providing a generally bug free handoff to the vBulletin community. I'll be editing the first post in a little bit with a list of known bugs and cross them off when they are resolved.

gothicuser
26 Sep 2006, 09:08
Yes, it is a shame. I have had to uninstall the mod because of the Gallery and Links issues.

chatpalace24
26 Sep 2006, 09:16
Thanks DChapman .
This nice Mod works great.

A nice and easy alternative.

Keep up this great work.

Neal-UK
26 Sep 2006, 09:18
We will solve them. We're committed to providing a generally bug free handoff to the vBulletin community. I'll be editing the first post in a little bit with a list of known bugs and cross them off when they are resolved.

And We are very grateful. Excellent that you have released so much for the communities on vBulletin and i'm sure zoints will do well, and I will try my best to make as many people as possible use it.

The support is amazing, for one. :)

Zoints
26 Sep 2006, 10:36
Zoints SEO Explained

Zoints SEO has been in development for a couple of years now. It is an amalgamation of various modifications made to a Big-Board that helped it get to that status. This SEO modification was created with very large boards in mind but should help small forums too.

As you are about to find out, Zoints SEO is very poorly named. If we were going to use a descriptive title, it would be called, "Zoints Search Engine Optimization, Revenue Enhancement, and Lots O' More Members Joining". However, that doesn't quite have the ring that "Zoints SEO" does and our marketing department (which does not actually exist) won out. Prior to installing any SEO modification, you should educate yourself as much as possible regarding SEO. I say this because there are a lot changes you can make that will hurt you. But PLEASE be careful, the statistical probability that the person claiming to know about SEO actually knows a damn thing and isn't just spewing forth garbage they read on a message board is very low. God knows I am not an SEO expert, Zoints is NOT an SEO company, and 98% of the people who claim to be knowledgeable should be run away from very quickly. Two good sites to learn FACTS:

1. http://www.mattcutts.com/blog/
2. Google Webmaster Guidelines (http://www.google.com/support/webmasters/bin/answer.py?answer=35769)


The Features and Settings of Zoints SEO

After properly installing Zoints SEO, you will be presented with the following options in your admincp:
http://img3.zoints.com/Zoints-SEO/1.png



As with any decent script, Zoints SEO can be turned on or off with a single click. Even better, each time you turn it on, an angel gets their wings.
http://img3.zoints.com/Zoints-SEO/2.png



A 301 redirect is the proper way to redirect a user to a new url. If you change your urls from showthread.php?t=#### to something else and DON'T utilize a 301 redirect, then old links are going to end up going to a 404. That's very bad. Select yes here :)
http://img3.zoints.com/Zoints-SEO/3.png



Zoints SEO has three primary options for URL rewriting:

1. No URL rewriting
2. URL rewriting without mod_rewrite. Why use this? If you want to insert keywords in the url but don't have mod_rewrite available or don't want to expend the resources (using mod_rewrite is server intensive and slows page generation) then this is a viable solution.
3. The mod_rewrite everyone knows and prefers.

http://img3.zoints.com/Zoints-SEO/4.png



A lot of people like to use the vBulletin archive as a sitemap. If you're going to do that, you might as well name is sitemap, right?
http://img3.zoints.com/Zoints-SEO/5.png



If you choose to utilize keywords in your URL, you have two choices of how to separate the words:

1. keyword-in-url.html
2. keyword_in_url.html
http://img3.zoints.com/Zoints-SEO/6.png



If you choose to utilize keywords in the url, then sometimes thread titles can be way too long. This option truncates the number of keywords in the url to however many you want.
http://img3.zoints.com/Zoints-SEO/7.png



Stopwords are words that the search engines don't care about all that much. You can turn on the removal of stopwords you list with this option.
http://img3.zoints.com/Zoints-SEO/8.png



This is a great picture. Any true SEO will agree that hippos are the cutest animals ever.
http://img3.zoints.com/Zoints-SEO/9.jpg



If you add stopwords to the box below, they will not be listed in any urls. For example, if you have a thread title of "My dogs likes to walk" and "to" as a stopword, then the url would be /my-dog-likes-walk.html
http://img3.zoints.com/Zoints-SEO/10.png



This option allows you to set meta keywords on a forum by forum basis. Now, I am of the opinion that meta keywords are deprecated. If search engines are still taking them into account in their algorithms, then I weep for the state of internet technologies. Why did we include this? Because someone somewhere would scream and cry and claim they heard from their uncle's friend's grandma's cousin's daughter who built a high ranked geocities page that the reason it was ranked high was the meta keywords.
http://img3.zoints.com/Zoints-SEO/11.png



This is the page that allows you to insert meta keywords on a forum by forum basis. That way if you have a forum about dogs, all the threads can have keywords about dogs. And if you have another forum about cats, all the keywords there can be about hippos because hippos are better than cats anyway.
http://img3.zoints.com/Zoints-SEO/meta-keywords.png



Zoints SEO also lets you set custom meta descriptions on a forum by forum basis, use the vBulletin default, OR populate the meta description with the first X words of a thread.
http://img3.zoints.com/Zoints-SEO/12.png



If you choose to populate the meta description with the first X words of a thread, this option lets you choose how many.
http://img3.zoints.com/Zoints-SEO/13.png



Should you decide to set the meta descriptions on a forum by forum basis, you will utilize this screen:
http://img3.zoints.com/Zoints-SEO/meta-description.png



Have you ever noticed that vBulletin has domain.com/forums and domain.com/forums/index.php? That's theoretically bad. That's bad because it dilutes your incoming links. Some people will link to domain.com/forums and others will link to domain.com/forums/index.php?. This option gets rid of the index.php so that you just have the clean url.
http://img3.zoints.com/Zoints-SEO/14.png



As stated earlier, Zoints SEO was build with large forums in mind. Have you ever been on a large forum with 20,000 threads in a single subforum and getting to page 73 of 452 was an exercise in futility? Well, the search engines want to get there too so they can efficiently crawl your content. And they also want you to have less than 100 links per page. We therefore came up with this:
http://img3.zoints.com/Zoints-SEO/15.png



What does the "all" option above add?
http://img3.zoints.com/Zoints-SEO/16.png



The "all" link makes life much easier for our friendly search engine bots to get to all of your content in an efficient manner while maintaining less than 100 links per page.
http://img3.zoints.com/Zoints-SEO/17.png



As previously stated, Zoints is much more than just an SEO script. We all know about the very popular "welcome headers" hack that says, "Hi guest, welcome to hippotalk.com, the forum for those who think hippos are very cute. Register or we will poke you with a pointy stick". It's a great hack, but it's not good enough. To increase guest registration rates, you must speak to them. The feature below allows you to write custom guest messages on a forum by forum basis. In other words, if a guest is viewing a subforum on thread in a forum about dogs, you can say, "Hi guest, if you are interested in dogs, then register already!". If another guest is viewing your cat forum threads, they can see something like, "Hi there, why do you like cats? Register and lets talk about it."
http://img3.zoints.com/Zoints-SEO/18.png



The default guest message title:
http://img3.zoints.com/Zoints-SEO/19.png



The default guest message:
http://img3.zoints.com/Zoints-SEO/20.png



You can then set the guest messages on a forum by forum basis on this screen. This lets you target your messages and have more relevant content :cool:
http://img3.zoints.com/Zoints-SEO/guest-messages.png



This is another trick of the trade. You know all those "no permission" messages people are forever getting? Now you can set them on a forum by forum basis too. This lets you write custom no message pages and direct bots to new areas of your site...
http://img3.zoints.com/Zoints-SEO/21.png



The default no permission messages:
http://img3.zoints.com/Zoints-SEO/22.png



The screen that lets you set no permission messages on a forum by forum basis:
http://img3.zoints.com/Zoints-SEO/permissions.png



If you want to use the archive as a sitemap, this option does that.
http://img3.zoints.com/Zoints-SEO/23.png



The option below is one of those aimed at large forums. It is 100% impossible for large forums to have less than 100 links on their default archive pages. Zoints figured out a new navigation methodology that allows just that :cool:
http://img3.zoints.com/Zoints-SEO/24.png



A simple setting that determines how many archive links per page:
http://img3.zoints.com/Zoints-SEO/25.png



Ok, here we got a little crazy. Try and follow me here. We created a "thread decay" system. Basically, for threads older than X days, guests will be taken to a different version of the page. This different version might have more ads, might have less graphics, etc.
http://img3.zoints.com/Zoints-SEO/26.png



If you choose to decay to a style, this is where you choose which one:
http://img3.zoints.com/Zoints-SEO/27.png



This is the setting for X where any thread older than X decays.
http://img3.zoints.com/Zoints-SEO/28.png



vBulletin changed their archive between 3.5.3 and 3.5.4. The automatic detection fails sometimes so this is where you can switch.
http://img3.zoints.com/Zoints-SEO/29.png



Have you ever tried to place ads in your archive? If so, you know that unless you're a good programmer, it is a pain in the butt. Well, Zoints decided to make it simple with these settings:

http://img3.zoints.com/Zoints-SEO/archive-ads.png

http://img3.zoints.com/Zoints-SEO/archive-ads2.png


And that is Zoints SEO in a nutshell.

Zoints
26 Sep 2006, 11:03
One small observation. All seems to be perfectly hunky dory, apart from when accessing threads from the 'Recent Threads' in vBAdvanced.
From within the forums a typical URL will display as
hxxp://www.cornishserver.com/forum/welcome-member-no-t2149.html
But visiting the same post, but from the vBAdvanced recent threads it looks like
hxxp://www.cornishserver.com/forum/welcome-member-no-t2149.html?p=11086#p11086
Doesn't seem to break anything, but a curiosity all the same!

Confirmed. Will be fixed.

Zoints
26 Sep 2006, 11:05
Thanks a lot for this David.
There are two bugs so far, 1. on my pp vbgallery all is pointing now to the /forum directory instead to /gallery
2. The next and previous thread links are working not right.

Confirmed and will be fixed.

Zoints
26 Sep 2006, 11:07
I'm noticing people on Who is online viewing a location that comes up with invalid link: /forumdisplay.php/-.html?u=403

Confirmed. Will be fixed.

Spiffware
26 Sep 2006, 11:40
bug found. when adding arcive ad seems to be fine but not showing on the forum where i told it too when i went back to remove or edit it in the admincp i hit remove or edit i get a blank screen. not sure y.

rezapci
26 Sep 2006, 15:28
In the admincp > Zoints SEO options, scroll to the very bottom and for archive version, select 3.5.4 or later and hit save.

it is on 3.5.4 or later!

lasto
26 Sep 2006, 17:20
will this work on 3.5.4 or am i wasting me time ?
Dont want to upgrade cause of existing hacks etc but hack sound good.

gothicuser
26 Sep 2006, 18:09
Confirmed and will be fixed.
That'll be great, really like to use this :D

rogersnm
26 Sep 2006, 18:15
No custom rewrite rules? :(

I know how to make it a .html file I just want to know how to redirect it.

Phooey
26 Sep 2006, 20:15
Wow, awesome add-on, DChapman! I'm going to wait for the next version until a few of the bugs are fixed, but this looks incredible. I can't wait to install and configure it.

Zoints
27 Sep 2006, 09:26
it is on 3.5.4 or later!

Please select automatic and hit save. Then select 3.5.4 or later and hit save again to reset things. See if that helps.

Zoints
27 Sep 2006, 09:39
will this work on 3.5.4 or am i wasting me time ?

It should, yes.

rezapci
27 Sep 2006, 11:20
Please select automatic and hit save. Then select 3.5.4 or later and hit save again to reset things. See if that helps.

I did, still the seam thing, It won't show full forum archive..!

I checked with few website, they install the Zoints SEO, they have the seam problem! I didn't see their full forum in archive!

rezapci
27 Sep 2006, 11:22
Please select automatic and hit save. Then select 3.5.4 or later and hit save again to reset things. See if that helps.

actually what I did now I set Use Zoints Archive Navigation? to No

and it shows full archive!

I don't know what is the problem, maybe its a bug!

Zoints
27 Sep 2006, 11:50
actually what I did now I set Use Zoints Archive Navigation? to No

and it shows full archive!

I don't know what is the problem, maybe its a bug!

It sounds like what you are referring to was the new Zoints navigation structure. It's done that way on purpose for larger forums.

Spiffware
27 Sep 2006, 12:20
dchapman did you read my reply about the archive ad? its on page 4

xtreme-mobile
27 Sep 2006, 13:10
this is great, easy to install

had probs with vbseo as it wouldnt allow me to upload attachments to my forum using internet explorer, this works just fine

recommended :D

great work

KoC
27 Sep 2006, 13:58
The link in the navbar looks not so nice. It would be better at the bottom of the page. My navbar is full and i cant accept any other links

teenhut
28 Sep 2006, 07:53
I am going to wait sometime before this becomes completely stable. Most of them have bugs and so I won't take risk now.

firefox100
28 Sep 2006, 19:00
I don't find it in threadbit:

<a href="showthread.php?$session[sessionurl]t=$thread[threadid]$thread[highlight]" id="thread_title_$thread[realthreadid]">$thread[threadtitle]</a>

I have the version 3.6.1

:confused:

Neal-UK
29 Sep 2006, 04:05
Dont' forget to add to your lists of known problems that vbGooglemap doesn't load either, both of them (Members addition and Events Edition).

Zoints
29 Sep 2006, 12:18
bug found. when adding arcive ad seems to be fine but not showing on the forum where i told it too when i went back to remove or edit it in the admincp i hit remove or edit i get a blank screen. not sure y.

I'm not able to reproduce this. Please provide the following:

1. Where did you tell it to show? Where did it end up showing?

2. Upon refresh after telling it to remove, was the ad in fact removed?

Zoints
29 Sep 2006, 12:20
Dont' forget to add to your lists of known problems that vbGooglemap doesn't load either, both of them (Members addition and Events Edition).

Does the url get changed or does the map just stop loading for some reason?

Spiffware
29 Sep 2006, 12:26
I'm not able to reproduce this. Please provide the following:

1. Where did you tell it to show? Where did it end up showing?

2. Upon refresh after telling it to remove, was the ad in fact removed?
well
1. i told it to show on theleft side top of the index and the left side forum neither one showed up.
2. ignore my browser is messed up my buddy can remove just fine that one is me.

Spiffware
29 Sep 2006, 12:31
maybe i just dont understand the archive ad i put just a test statment lie "testing this option" and titel would be test and i dont see any thing no matter where i put it.

Neal-UK
29 Sep 2006, 15:54
EDIT:

Any time scale for when the update will be done, I want this back

sezmar
29 Sep 2006, 19:48
This looks like a great hack, when will the updates be coming?

bada_bing
30 Sep 2006, 03:14
Has this been tested and will it work with vb 3.5.4 ?

KoC
30 Sep 2006, 12:49
We wait for the great Upgrade. The bugs must be fixed before i can use it

Hoffi
30 Sep 2006, 13:31
The explanation of the Template Changes are bad. I did not find some of the Code the Style. And yes, I searched in Master Style too. Using 3.6.1

And I have a wish.
I I use German characters like the Link ist cut there.

Forumtitle ist: WoD1: Jger die Vergeltung
Link is: wod-1-j-f-108/index.html
Thats Bad. Other Forums have the complete name in the link.
There are Other Characters that cut off the Word like and some other.
I like to have a translation matrix where I can enter a translation like
= e
= ae
and so on.

and one last thing. I like to rewrite the User Profile Pages too. Is that possible?

corsacant
02 Oct 2006, 16:10
I'm waiting for the bugs to be fixed then I will be installing this straight away.

Zoints
03 Oct 2006, 05:51
Will someone with the gallery, links, or other such program bugs please open a ticket at Zoints.com/support.z with a temp FTP account and temp admin account so we can look into getting this fixed.

Thank you.

We should have the other bugs fixed this evening. The gallyer type bugs will be fixed when someone provides us working logins.

Zoints
03 Oct 2006, 06:05
I'm noticing people on Who is online viewing a location that comes up with invalid link: /forumdisplay.php/-.html?u=403

Actually, it turns out that Zoints SEO does not use the u variable. Could you be using something else that would cause that problem?

Zoints
03 Oct 2006, 06:28
Zoints SEO 2.2.2 has been released. As of this posting, there are no known bugs, only incompaitibilies with some modifications and non english characters.

If you find any bugs, PLEASE post them. Thanks!

10/02/2006 - 2.2.2
* Different meta description for FORUMHOME
* Minor bugfixes

tyler_d
03 Oct 2006, 07:28
Looks like all administrators will have the option to Rewrite URLs w/o mod_rewrite

But if one has mod_rewrite available, is it better to use the mod_rewrite for URL rewrites or is it better to use the rewrite option that does not use mod_rewrite?

The instructions allude that the only difference is that the mod_rewrite option can hog up more processing speed. So my question is, if everyone has the option to not use mod_rewrite, why even offer the mod_rewrite option if it's gonna accomplish the same URL re_writes, but only consume more processor resources?

Just curious... hopefully this hasn't already been discussed (cuz I could not find the answer in searching this huge thread).

redstaing.net
03 Oct 2006, 11:08
waaawo man

MrLeN
03 Oct 2006, 15:25
I have vba links installed -- is there any sort of work around I can use so that I can use both (seeing as though links in not compatible with Zoints)? as far as I can see, the only problem is the base href in the template. If I remove that, I think it should still work.

Edit Oh and also.. Can someone tell me why if I turn it on to:

"Rewrite URLs and insert keywords" -- Then when I try to click into a category, I get a dead page.

But f I use: "Rewrite URLs and insert keywords", it works fine.

I have mod_rewrite turned on, and I just double check the instructions. I have done everything correctly. I am using vB 3.6.1

spjeff69
03 Oct 2006, 15:34
So once this is installed, and vBulletin releases a new version, will there be any problems upgrading?

project-Buckfas
03 Oct 2006, 20:35
All I can say is WOW! I had this installed since the day it was released. It has worked wonders!

Thanks DChapman!!

rezapci
03 Oct 2006, 21:11
Ok now, how could we update? why don't you explain right?

Gush!!

SportsZone
03 Oct 2006, 21:32
Ok now, how could we update? why don't you explain right?

Gush!!

Just like any other hack, you overwrite everything...

gothicuser
03 Oct 2006, 22:02
Hot damn..... finally find a decent SEO for vB for free only to get shot down simply because we use vBA-Links/Gallery :( :(

tyler_d
03 Oct 2006, 22:26
this add-on is amazing, I had no issues with install... it worked just as the instructions said. I am on vB3.6.0 and my URLs are now Search Engine Optimized just as good as they would've been with the encrypted & $150 vbSEO.

So glad this free add-on was released and DChampman finally fixed the bugs!! :) Happy camper here!

da420
03 Oct 2006, 22:27
Hot damn..... finally find a decent SEO for vB for free only to get shot down simply because we use vBA-Links/Gallery :( :(

Install it, if it doesn't work, file a ticket with the Zoints network so they can get the bugs worked out.

unitedpunjab
03 Oct 2006, 23:39
i get this error "No input file specified."

gothicuser
04 Oct 2006, 05:40
Install it, if it doesn't work, file a ticket with the Zoints network so they can get the bugs worked out.
Installed and really liked it apart from
Zoints SEO is currently incompatible with:
1. Incompatibility with vBA Gallery link.
2. Incompatibility with vBA Links

Then uninstalled it. Trouble is, the forum it is installed upon is fairly active, and is rendered untennable because of the incompatibility, so any time delay between install/ticket submission/repair would make it not a viable proposition :(

flindersredclaw
04 Oct 2006, 11:12
Very cool.

However, clean install on 3.61 clean

options like dynamic guest message has no [edit][delete]
same for the dynamic permission message.

also is it ok for the keywords to be added and followed by f11 or f45 or what ever?

amcd
04 Oct 2006, 15:49
its not very clear how this accomplishes url rewriting wothout mod_rewrite.

will it work with lighttpd?

tyler_d
04 Oct 2006, 17:37
Also is there any disadvantage to enabling Zoints SEO URL rewriting without mod_rewrite?

I know that that one of the advantages is processor speed but I did not see it talk about disadvantages over the mod_rewrite option.

corsacant
04 Oct 2006, 18:42
I've installed this product but I have one question. What is the advantage of the mod_rewrite option over just normally re-writing the urls?
Thanks in advance.

HaYLaZ
04 Oct 2006, 20:39
in rewrite options second options shows your urls like below;

http://www.xxx.com/forumdisplay.php/xxxx.html

but third options is full html.
İt shows your links like below;

http://www.xxxx.com/xxxx-f652.html

needtheend
04 Oct 2006, 22:56
<a href="showthread.php?$session[sessionurl]t=$thread[threadid]$thread[highlight]" id="thread_title_$thread[realthreadid]">$thread[threadtitle]</a>

I can't fint the text above in threadbit template. (I'm using 3.6.2)

Spiffware
04 Oct 2006, 23:23
vbulletin 3.6.2 just came out i hope this will not change this much if so i hope it will be up and running on a fresh 3.6.2 as soon as posible....

flindersredclaw
05 Oct 2006, 02:23
ok It seems to have corrected itself.

The issue must have something to do with cookies... I cleared my cookies and all the options are there now.

Great set up.

chatpalace24
05 Oct 2006, 18:13
hi all together :)

for all People from Germany that looks beasty , because the german "Umlaute" like , , , in thread and forum title ... her is the quickfix, and hopefully DChapman integrates it :

Oki here we go .

Open the file /includes/function_zseo.php and search for this :

function zseo_cleaned_string($string)
{
global $vbulletin;

$bit = iif($vbulletin->options['zointsseo_url_separator'], '_', '-');

after that write this :


$string = str_replace("", "Ue", $string);
$string = str_replace("", "ue", $string);
$string = str_replace("", "Ae", $string);
$string = str_replace("", "ae", $string);
$string = str_replace("", "Oe", $string);
$string = str_replace("", "oe", $string);
$string = str_replace("", "ss", $string);


Thats all folks.

Have Fun

da420
05 Oct 2006, 23:32
DChapman,

I have vBGallery, vBGoogleMap Member Edition, and vBA CMPS and have installed this, and as requested filed a ticket including my FTP info and an admin account with your support as to try and get these issues resolved for the community. I appreciate this very much.

Thanks for this,

Dustin

Ronak
06 Oct 2006, 06:50
<a href="showthread.php?$session[sessionurl]goto=lastpost&amp;t=$lastpostinfo[lastthreadid]"><img class="inlineimg" src="$stylevar[imgdir_button]/lastpost.gif" alt="$vbphrase[go_to_last_post]" border="0" /></a>

i cant find this code in forumhome_lastpostby template :(

Please Help me:(

Hoffi
06 Oct 2006, 08:41
Search for

<a href="showthread.php?$session[sessionurl]p=$lastpostinfo[lastpostid]#post$lastpostinfo[lastpostid]"><img class="inlineimg" src="$stylevar[imgdir_button]/lastpost.gif" alt="$vbphrase[go_to_last_post]" border="0" /></a>

And replace by

<a href="<if condition="$show['zointsurl']">$forum[zointsurl_goto]<if condition="$show['member']">?$session[sessionurl]p=$lastpostinfo[lastpostid]#post$lastpostinfo[lastpostid]</if><else />showthread.php?$session[sessionurl]p=$lastpostinfo[lastpostid]#post$lastpostinfo[lastpostid]</if>"><img class="inlineimg" src="$stylevar[imgdir_button]/lastpost.gif" alt="$vbphrase[go_to_last_post]" border="0" /></a>


I have an automated created File with all my Changes, but it's in German.

Did anyone has a working solution for GARS?

newmomsforum
06 Oct 2006, 15:12
Works great - Thanks :D

DJ PİSAGOR
07 Oct 2006, 13:47
does it work 3.6.2 ?

HaYLaZ
07 Oct 2006, 13:54
yes it works with 3.6.2

DJ PİSAGOR
07 Oct 2006, 17:40
I install in 3.6.2 but there a problem.
Instead of "www.forumena.com" it came out "www.forumena.com/?"
can you help me with fixing this.

I waiting for your help. Thank you

Orcun
07 Oct 2006, 19:18
Well well,

This Addon seems quite good looking. I've installed this on my site. It works fine except some cases.

1)

$string = str_replace("", "Ue", $string);
$string = str_replace("", "ue", $string);

This code doesnt re-write the Thread links. I Still have - for the Turkish characters.

2)

Archieve has problems I think.

Chech out HERE (http://www.forumturkiye.gen.tr/archive/index.php) and click on a link. It will bring up the 404 Not found error. Couldnt figured out what had caused that.



I would be glad If I receive help
Thanks

DJ PİSAGOR
07 Oct 2006, 19:32
1-) Open the file /includes/function_zseo.php and search for this
$string = unhtmlspecialchars($string);

add below:

$string = str_replace("ı", 'i', $string);
$string = str_replace("ğ", 'g', $string);
$string = str_replace("", 'u', $string);
$string = str_replace("ş", 's', $string);
$string = str_replace("", 'o', $string);
$string = str_replace("", 'c', $string);
$string = str_replace("Ğ", 'g', $string);
$string = str_replace("", 'u', $string);
$string = str_replace("Ş", 's', $string);
$string = str_replace("İ", 'i', $string);
$string = str_replace("", 'o', $string);
$string = str_replace("", 'c', $string);

2-) Diğer sorunun cevabını bilmiyorum :) Ayarlarına bi bak istersen.
i don' t know other problem

Orcun
07 Oct 2006, 20:02
Yep, I did it but doesn't work either. Saolasin kardes..

Still have - instead of turkish chars.

Btw, After enabling mod_rewrite, my sitemap returns to itself when I click a link..

Orcun
07 Oct 2006, 20:10
Yep!

Chars work now. Pisagor, pay attention to use of " and ' in the code.

Correct usage is



$string = str_replace("ı", "i", $string);
$string = str_replace("ğ", "g", $string);
$string = str_replace("", "u", $string);
$string = str_replace("ş", "s", $string);
$string = str_replace("", "o", $string);
$string = str_replace("", "c", $string);
$string = str_replace("Ğ", "g", $string);
$string = str_replace("", "u", $string);
$string = str_replace("Ş", "s", $string);
$string = str_replace("İ", "i", $string);
$string = str_replace("", "o", $string);
$string = str_replace("", "c", $string);



Thank alot again.

Btw, Archieve is still not working :)

AMG021
08 Oct 2006, 01:11
this zoints thing is not working for me !!! i installed it and when i click on a post from the Forum Home and for some reason changes the path to my forum form community to comminity

Ramsesx
08 Oct 2006, 01:29
this zoints thing is not working for me !!! i installed it and when i click on a post from the Forum Home and for some reason changes the path to my forum form community to comminity
Maybe you wrote anywhere in the htaccess or in the acp comminity instead community?

Zoints
08 Oct 2006, 01:44
I just wanted to update you guys with our side of things. We're pretty backed up with a couple other large modifications right now and had some recently illnesses so won't be able to add much on our end for awhile. But it's nice to see the community starting to come together to get things fixed. :cool: As a collective, you guys can do far better work than we ever could.

Ramsesx
08 Oct 2006, 02:16
Thanks David, but I hope the gallery compatiblety will be fixed from your team?

firefox100
08 Oct 2006, 03:26
I don't find it in threadbit:

<a href="showthread.php?$session[sessionurl]t=$thread[threadid]$thread[highlight]" id="thread_title_$thread[realthreadid]">$thread[threadtitle]</a>

I have the version 3.6.1

:confused:
I reiterate, I don't find this code in threadbit template:

<a href="showthread.php?$session[sessionurl]t=$thread[threadid]$thread[highlight]" id="thread_title_$thread[realthreadid]">$thread[threadtitle]</a>

Can somebody help me??? ;)

Ronak
08 Oct 2006, 05:36
this thread surely deserves 5 starz :D superb SEO :D

Hoffi
08 Oct 2006, 09:58
I just build a product for an easy Character-Translation.

Just import the Product und change one File.

Open the file /includes/function_zseo.php and search for this

$bit = iif($vbulletin->options['zointsseo_url_separator'], '_', '-');

add nder that:


// Hoffis Char-Translation
if (!empty($vbulletin->options['chartranslationmatrix']))
{
$search = array();
$replace = array();
$sr_arr = split("\r\n",$vbulletin->options['chartranslationmatrix']);
if (is_array($sr_arr))
{
foreach($sr_arr as $val)
{
$trans = split("=",$val);
if (is_array($trans))
{
$search[] = $trans[0];
$replace[] = $trans[1];
}
}
$string = str_replace($search, $replace, $string);
}
}
// End Hoffi


Upload the File and go to Zoints Settings to configure your Translations.
Each Line one Translation. Like:
=ae
=e

Have fun.

The Zoints developer can integrate this in the next release if they want. No Problem for me. A Credit would be nice. ;)

German Version avaiable here: http://www.vbhacks-germany.org/showthread.php?t=5700

Remark: If you exclude Words with special Chars that you translate, you must enter the translated Version in the Settings!

Hoffi
08 Oct 2006, 09:59
I reiterate, I don't find this code in threadbit template:

<a href="showthread.php?$session[sessionurl]t=$thread[threadid]$thread[highlight]" id="thread_title_$thread[realthreadid]">$thread[threadtitle]</a>

Can somebody help me??? ;)
Just read this Thread. I posted it a few Days ago.

KuRnAz
08 Oct 2006, 13:55
I just build a product for an easy Character-Translation.

Just import the Product und change one File.

Open the file /includes/function_zseo.php and search for this

$bit = iif($vbulletin->options['zointsseo_url_separator'], '_', '-');

add nder that:


// Hoffis Char-Translation
if (!empty($vbulletin->options['chartranslationmatrix']))
{
$search = array();
$replace = array();
$sr_arr = split("\r\n",$vbulletin->options['chartranslationmatrix']);
if (is_array($sr_arr))
{
foreach($sr_arr as $val)
{
$trans = split("=",$val);
if (is_array($trans))
{
$search[] = $trans[0];
$replace[] = $trans[1];
}
}
$string = str_replace($search, $replace, $string);
}
}
// End Hoffi


Upload the File and go to Zoints Settings to configure your Translations.
Each Line one Translation. Like:
=ae
=e

Have fun.

The Zoints developer can integrate this in the next release if they want. No Problem for me. A Credit would be nice. ;)

German Version avaiable here: http://www.vbhacks-germany.org/showthread.php?t=5700

Remark: If you exclude Words with special Chars that you translate, you must enter the translated Version in the Settings!
Is this making the words ?

ş > s
ğ > g
> c

+
I am waiting a solve for charectger problem till 2 week...
Pls help ?

Ramsesx
08 Oct 2006, 14:15
Is this making the words ?

ş > s
ğ > g
> c

+
I am waiting a solve for charectger problem till 2 week...
Pls help ?
Yes, that seems to be what he said
Upload the File and go to Zoints Settings to configure your Translations.
Each Line one Translation. Like:
=ae
=e

KuRnAz
08 Oct 2006, 14:19
Yes, that seems to be what he said
I tried but it not...

> ae
> e

That's right but it don't work in other non-english charecters like ş,,,ı ...
ThankS....

Ramsesx
08 Oct 2006, 14:53
Hm, normally it should work with your characters too, are non english characters too. You tried the solution described in this post (http://www.vbulletin.org/forum/showpost.php?p=1090587&postcount=168)?

AMG021
08 Oct 2006, 16:41
Maybe you wrote anywhere in the htaccess or in the acp comminity instead community?
Yes in ADmin cp i did :) thanks for this dude! :)

MagikMuzik
08 Oct 2006, 17:12
I'm having the same problem with the archive. It does show, but when a link is clicked, it doesn't do anything

Yep!

Chars work now. Pisagor, pay attention to use of " and ' in the code.

Correct usage is



$string = str_replace("ı", "i", $string);
$string = str_replace("ğ", "g", $string);
$string = str_replace("", "u", $string);
$string = str_replace("ş", "s", $string);
$string = str_replace("", "o", $string);
$string = str_replace("", "c", $string);
$string = str_replace("Ğ", "g", $string);
$string = str_replace("", "u", $string);
$string = str_replace("Ş", "s", $string);
$string = str_replace("İ", "i", $string);
$string = str_replace("", "o", $string);
$string = str_replace("", "c", $string);



Thank alot again.

Btw, Archieve is still not working :)

Hoffi
08 Oct 2006, 19:00
I tried but it not...

> ae
> e

That's right but it don't work in other non-english charecters like ş,,,ı ...
ThankS....

Write ist with a = and no blanks between.
It works with every Character.
Archive is OK, I just downloaded it today.

DJ PİSAGOR
08 Oct 2006, 19:29
I install in 3.6.2 but there a problem.
Instead of "www.forumena.com" it came out "www.forumena.com/?"
can you help me with fixing this.

I waiting for your help. Thank you

+
there is a problem
searching any member's posts
a resault of link click going false forum
to expression below pictures
wait you'rs help

http://img300.imageshack.us/img300/4305/forumdisplayiw5.jpg

Hoffi
08 Oct 2006, 22:54
If I edit a post, the smilies don't show up, and if I try to check the Smilie-Image, it shows me the Path of the Forum. I use the index.html version.

Also if a new-PM Popup apperas and I click on "Yes" to open it, it try to open the private.php in the create Forum of the Thread / Forum I am in the Moment.

With the p1 Setting all works. I just switched back.

rezapci
08 Oct 2006, 23:59
how could I remove the orum SEO by Zoints from bottom of my pages?

tyler_d
09 Oct 2006, 01:03
i think if you join zoints (for free) or donate $100 you're authorized to do it

and to accomplish it technically, just go to language phrase search (in vB admin backend) look for the zoints copyright verbiage and replace the text with an empty space character " "

ninjashoes
09 Oct 2006, 23:54
In my archive it shows forums but when I try to look at a thread it redirects me back to the main index of the archive so I cant read archive threads while this hack is turned on. Everything else works great except I cant looped when I try to read posts in the archive.


If I disable archive_postheader and archive_process_start plugins it works fine.

Does anyone know what could cause this problem? Is this happening to anyone else?

great hack btw, I am very thankful for this, if I get this one problem worked out it will be 100% smooth operating.

Moparx
10 Oct 2006, 22:29
http://forums.livingwithstyle.com
I noticed you recently switched your forum from your own seo system to vbseo.
Not that it matters as both systems are great and do what they are intended to do.

On topic: Do you happen to know why a site using Zoints SEO's rewrite gives you an infinite redirect loop which results in the inability to access the site's content when you refuse the site's cookies? (works just fine with cookies)

I've tried it on multiple sites (even your own). I have noticed that vBSEO does not appear to have this issue and it is kind of odd since cookies shouldnt really matter.

tyler_d
10 Oct 2006, 23:08
I noticed you recently switched your forum from your own seo system to vbseo.
Not that it matters as both systems are great and do what they are intended to do.
Not only that, but when I looked at his forum's URLs, the were being re-written w/o key words.

My guess was that DChapman was just testing or experimenting with stuff.

ConqSoft
10 Oct 2006, 23:11
Yes, he is using vBSEO, and here is his rationale for the URL format he chose:

http://www.vbseo.com/f84/vbseo-beautiful-piece-software-8405/

Ramsesx
10 Oct 2006, 23:15
Think I'll give it up with zoints seo, the idea to make it open source is a good one, but on the community here it's not really supported.

KuRnAz
11 Oct 2006, 10:40
I think I am having a problem with my archive pages...

For Example...
In Search engines i have a link of my archive like that....
http://www.sitename.net/vb/archive/index.php/t-10170.html

When I am clicking it , he is re-writing like that ;
http://www.sitename.net/vb/sitemap/index.php/http://www.sitename.net/vb/showthread.php/bu-isim-senin-neyin-oluyor-10170.html

And So My archive's homepage is opening....

How can I solve this problem and forward it to ttp://www.sitename.net/vb/showthread.php/bu-isim-senin-neyin-oluyor-10170.html ..

ThanX ...

Zoints
11 Oct 2006, 16:23
I noticed you recently switched your forum from your own seo system to vbseo.
Not that it matters as both systems are great and do what they are intended to do.

Yep, i've been dying to try a new url schema for quite awhile. vBSEO allows me to do that, whereas Zoints SEO does not. vBSEO allows for far more configuration options than Zoints SEO at present. You get what you pay for :)

On topic: Do you happen to know why a site using Zoints SEO's rewrite gives you an infinite redirect loop which results in the inability to access the site's content when you refuse the site's cookies? (works just fine with cookies)

I've tried it on multiple sites (even your own). I have noticed that vBSEO does not appear to have this issue and it is kind of odd since cookies shouldnt really matter.
Good find. I'll add that to the bugs list, thank you.

ninjashoes
11 Oct 2006, 22:30
I think I am having a problem with my archive pages...

For Example...
In Search engines i have a link of my archive like that....
http://www.sitename.net/vb/archive/index.php/t-10170.html

When I am clicking it , he is re-writing like that ;
http://www.sitename.net/vb/sitemap/index.php/http://www.sitename.net/vb/showthread.php/bu-isim-senin-neyin-oluyor-10170.html

And So My archive's homepage is opening....

How can I solve this problem and forward it to ttp://www.sitename.net/vb/showthread.php/bu-isim-senin-neyin-oluyor-10170.html ..

ThanX ...


Hmm looks like another clue to our archive problem.

big dan
12 Oct 2006, 10:23
I'm having a problem:

Go to New Post on thread display no longer works since installing this hack. It simply goes to the forum home page.

Any Ideas guys?

Thanks,
Danny.

TTG
12 Oct 2006, 16:02
This looks so inviting and interesting .. pity it is not supported

werkkrew
14 Oct 2006, 02:49
I am having the same problem with the posts in my archive redirecting back to the main page.

big dan
14 Oct 2006, 09:10
I'm having a problem:

Go to New Post on thread display no longer works since installing this hack. It simply goes to the forum home page.

Any Ideas guys?

Thanks,
Danny.

On further inspection; Multi page threads are fine. Single page threads show the Go To New Post link as www.forumurl.com/#4346.

I'm assuming the fix is in the threadbit template, I just don't know where?

Hoffi
14 Oct 2006, 10:06
Yea, I have this Error, too. Very bab, many of my Users use this Link.

Zoints
14 Oct 2006, 19:54
Those of you having problems with the archive:

Are you running php in CGI or as a module?

ehsanix
14 Oct 2006, 23:25
it's great
working properly
thank u sooooo much http://qsmile.com/qsimages/17.gif

ninjashoes
15 Oct 2006, 08:01
Those of you having problems with the archive:

Are you running php in CGI or as a module?
CGI for me

big dan
15 Oct 2006, 10:13
Uninstalled

AMG021
15 Oct 2006, 22:49
uninstalled.. had it for 2 weeks never found my self in search engines!! Gave me soo much problems ! UNINSTALLED

tyler_d
15 Oct 2006, 23:01
I guess SEO isn't for everybody. I've had it installed since the last update and it has worked great and different spiders are crawling me much more frequently now from what I'm noticing in the vB who's online status.

Amazing difference!

Zoints
15 Oct 2006, 23:07
I'd like to reiterate, pleased do not install this hack unless you are well educated when it comes to SEO.

Be patient, take a step back, see if the community develops it. If not, you're better off with your default forum setup.

Moparx
15 Oct 2006, 23:37
I'd like to reiterate, pleased do not install this hack unless you are well educated when it comes to SEO.

Be patient, take a step back, see if the community develops it. If not, you're better off with your default forum setup.
Agreed. Too many people seem to think that all they have to do is install some plugin then simply sit back and watch the traffic start pouring in... It doesnt work that way sadly

Orcun
15 Oct 2006, 23:47
I'd like to reiterate, pleased do not install this hack unless you are well educated when it comes to SEO.

Be patient, take a step back, see if the community develops it. If not, you're better off with your default forum setup.

+1

What SEO does is to make the site more Crawable. It doesnt put you in Top10 results in Google or whatever and it is not about patience. It justs help search engines to search better since "SEO" means "Search Engine Optimisation"

For whom "knows what he's doing" Zoints SEO is on of the best plugins I have installed on this site. I strictly recomment it and for whom "Doesnt know what he's doing", you can try buying vBSEO and start prayin' to god to give you rapid community development bec. you are paying for it.

and again DChapman, thanks for this addon.
I would like to help it making better.

Thanks.

ninjashoes
16 Oct 2006, 00:51
Yeah great hack, how can you complain about a free vbseo? The incoming search engine traffic has improved on my forum already. If your intelligent enough to understand what it does and have the pateince to get the bugs worked out this is possibly mod of the year.

big dan
16 Oct 2006, 02:49
I'd like to reiterate, pleased do not install this hack unless you are well educated when it comes to SEO.

Be patient, take a step back, see if the community develops it. If not, you're better off with your default forum setup.

I like the plugin and understand SEO, the concept behind Zoints SEO is great. My problem was a very basic thing got broken. View New Posts on threadview no longer works. I posted here and didn't get an answer, I viewed the Zoint's forum and see people have asked the same with no answer.

I'm not complaining, I understood when I installed that it might not work 100% and wasn't supported by the authors. Yet a basic thing like view new posts should work.. no?

gokhantr
17 Oct 2006, 00:11
hello I'm using VBulletin 3.6.2
I have downloaded zoint seo 2.2.2

after installation we can observe a bug in my site all thread are visible twice on the same pages
first as normal secondly as closed thread
you can see it on the images bellow

http://img273.imageshack.us/img273/4342/test1gb5.jpg

http://img261.imageshack.us/img261/2296/test2jr3.jpg

two image are a screenshot af a same page

can you give me a response in short delay please
thanks

Zoints
17 Oct 2006, 01:33
hello I'm using VBulletin 3.6.2
I have downloaded zoint seo 2.2.2

after installation we can observe a bug in my site all thread are visible twice on the same pages

1. Did you do any manual template edits?

2. Do they show twice on forumdisplay.php?

Zoints
17 Oct 2006, 01:34
I'm not complaining, I understood when I installed that it might not work 100% and wasn't supported by the authors. Yet a basic thing like view new posts should work.. no?

Definitely. Hopefully someone can provide a fix for it soon.

gokhantr
17 Oct 2006, 02:05
1. Did you do any manual template edits?

2. Do they show twice on forumdisplay.php?

1. i don't do any manuel edit

2. they aren't show twice on forumdisplay.php
:(

Joe Gronlund
17 Oct 2006, 16:51
Would using google sitemaps, and this modification be redundant???

ConqSoft
17 Oct 2006, 16:54
Would using google sitemaps, and this modification be redundant???

No, you need both. BUT, you need a sitemap tool that will create a sitemap containing the rewritten URLs, which doesn't exist for Zoints SEO yet, as far as I know.

Joe Gronlund
17 Oct 2006, 19:11
Great thanks, still would like to remove the copyright.
I registered on zoints, can someone post a URL to how to remove the Copyright??

rogersnm
17 Oct 2006, 20:16
It uses a str_replace which you can find in one of the plugins. Just delete it.

TurkSipa
17 Oct 2006, 21:31
I dont move posts an other threads.
This error: You have not specified a valid URL for the thread that you want to merge. Please check that the URL includes a valid threadid, "t=xxx" or postid, "p=xxx" (where xxx is a number).

Example thread: /forum/oldu-galiba-evvvet-t35644.html

where xxx number ?

Orcun
18 Oct 2006, 01:03
I dont move posts an other threads.
This error: You have not specified a valid URL for the thread that you want to merge. Please check that the URL includes a valid threadid, "t=xxx" or postid, "p=xxx" (where xxx is a number).

Example thread: /forum/oldu-galiba-evvvet-t35644.html

where xxx number ?

That part I underlined and Bolded is the XXX part needed. Before SEO It was like ?t=1234123

after SEO it becomes in form -t1234123.html

I have no problem with moving.

TurkSipa
18 Oct 2006, 03:09
That part I underlined and Bolded is the XXX part needed. Before SEO It was like ?t=1234123

after SEO it becomes in form -t1234123.html

I have no problem with moving.

Thanks man ( ok sağol ;)

tazB.ca
19 Oct 2006, 20:05
when i check who's online i see ppl at this Unknown Location

forums/forumdisplay.php/-.html?&rand=382909

it says they're viewing an error message

i dont know how they get to this page ???

TheBlacki
22 Oct 2006, 11:03
I tried to edit all templates, but had some problems still.
I use the Blaze Style, German Version of vBulletin 3.6.2.

What went wrong? Please help me!

In Template forumhome_lastpostby

Find:(Don't work)
==================================================
<a href="showthread.php?$session[sessionurl]p=lastpost&amp;t=$lastpostinfo[lastthreadid]"><img class="inlineimg"

src="$stylevar[imgdir_button]/lastpost.gif" alt="$vbphrase[go_to_last_post]" border="0" /></a>
==================================================
Replace With:
==================================================
<a href="<if condition="$show['zointsurl']">$forum[zointsurl_goto]<if

condition="$show['member']">?$session[sessionurl]goto=lastpost</if><else

/>showthread.php?$session[sessionurl]goto=lastpost&amp;t=$lastpostinfo[lastthreadid]</if>"><img class="inlineimg"

src="$stylevar[imgdir_button]/lastpost.gif" alt="$vbphrase[go_to_last_post]" border="0" /></a>
==================================================


Find:(Don't work)
==================================================
<a href="showthread.php?$session[sessionurl]goto=lastpost&amp;t=$lastpostinfo[lastthreadid]"><img class="inlineimg"

src="$stylevar[imgdir_button]/lastpost.gif" alt="$vbphrase[go_to_last_post]" border="0" /></a>
==================================================
Replace With:
==================================================
<a href="<if condition="$show['zointsurl']">$forum[zointsurl_goto]<if

condition="$show['member']">?$session[sessionurl]goto=lastpost</if><else

/>showthread.php?$session[sessionurl]goto=lastpost&amp;t=$lastpostinfo[lastthreadid]</if>"><img class="inlineimg"

src="$stylevar[imgdir_button]/lastpost.gif" alt="$vbphrase[go_to_last_post]" border="0" /></a>
==================================================
________________________________________________________________________________ _______________________________________________
In Template threadbit

Find:(Don't work)
==================================================
<strong><a href="showthread.php?$session[sessionurl]t=$thread[threadid]$thread[highlight]"

id="thread_title_$thread[realthreadid]">$thread[threadtitle]</a></strong>
==================================================
Replace With:
==================================================
<strong><a href="<if condition="$show['zointsurl']">$thread[zointsurl]<else

/>showthread.php?$session[sessionurl]t=$thread[threadid]$thread[highlight]</if>"

id="thread_title_$thread[realthreadid]">$thread[threadtitle]</a></strong>
==================================================



Find:(Don't work)
==================================================
<a href="showthread.php?$session[sessionurl]t=$thread[threadid]$thread[highlight]"

id="thread_title_$thread[realthreadid]">$thread[threadtitle]</a>
==================================================
Replace With:
==================================================
<a href="<if condition="$show['zointsurl']">$thread[zointsurl]<else

/>showthread.php?$session[sessionurl]t=$thread[threadid]$thread[highlight]</if>"

id="thread_title_$thread[realthreadid]">$thread[threadtitle]</a>
==================================================


Find:(This I could also change in threadbit_deleted)
==================================================
<td class="alt1"><a

href="forumdisplay.php?$session[sessionurl]f=$thread[forumid]">$thread[forumtitle]</a></td>
==================================================
Replace With:
==================================================
<td class="alt1"><a href="<if condition="$show['zointsurl']">$thread[zointsforumurl]<else

/>forumdisplay.php?$session[sessionurl]f=$thread[forumid]</if>">$thread[forumtitle]</a></td>
==================================================
________________________________________________________________________________ _______________________________________________

bonjurkes
22 Oct 2006, 14:14
i have a problem at template editing

TEMPLATE: showthread_similarthreadbit


Find:

<td class="alt1" align="$stylevar[left]"><if condition="$simthread['issubscribed']"><img class="inlineimg" src="$stylevar[imgdir_misc]/subscribed.gif" alt="" title="$vbphrase[you_are_subscribed_to_this_thread]" />&nbsp;</if><span class="smallfont"><a href="showthread.php?$session[sessionurl]t=$simthread[threadid]" title="$simthread[preview]">$simthread[title]</a></span></td>

Replace :


<td class="alt1" align="$stylevar[left]"><if condition="$simthread['issubscribed']"><img class="inlineimg" src="$stylevar[imgdir_misc]/subscribed.gif" alt="" title="$vbphrase[you_are_subscribed_to_this_thread]" />&nbsp;</if><span class="smallfont"><a href="<if condition="$show['zointsurl']">$simthread[zointsurl<else />showthread.php?$session[sessionurl]t=$simthread[threadid]</if>" title="$simthread[preview]">$simthread[title]</a></span></td>


Error:

The following error occurred when attempting to evaluate this template:

Parse error: parse error, unexpected '\"', expecting ']' in /home/bonjurke/public_html/forum/includes/adminfunctions_template.php(3593) : eval()'d code on line 2

This is likely caused by a malformed conditional statement. It is highly recommended that you fix this error before continuing, but you may continue as-is if you wish.

frivolesPaar
22 Oct 2006, 16:43
... there is a mistake:

>$simthread[zointsurl<else

must be:

>$simthread[zointsurl]<else

sorry for the bad English :up:

big dan
22 Oct 2006, 17:30
Here's what I did to fix the View New Posts link on showthread:

<a href="http://www.forumurl.com/showthread.php?t=$threadid$firstunread"><strong>$vbphrase[view_first_unread]</strong></a>

So far it seems to work.:smoke:

MrLeN
23 Oct 2006, 01:14
I have installed Zoints SEO, but I would now like to uninstall it. How can I do this?

Danny.VBT
23 Oct 2006, 01:21
I have installed Zoints SEO, but I would now like to uninstall it. How can I do this?

Uninstall the product via the product manager, and remove any uploaded files from the installation...

MrLeN
23 Oct 2006, 01:30
Thanks.. where/what is the product manager?

Edit Never mind -- found it. Thanks.

ComputerVitals
23 Oct 2006, 05:34
Interesting... I've been doing a lot of reading.

Some say SEO is the way to go!
But I also heard this doesn't matter..
Either way I installed and will give it a go.

My next question..

Any plans on trying to make this work with vBAdvanced?

TurkSipa
23 Oct 2006, 19:31
Here's what I did to fix the View New Posts link on showthread:

<a href="http://www.forumurl.com/showthread.php?t=$threadid$firstunread"><strong>$vbphrase[view_first_unread]</strong></a>

So far it seems to work.:smoke:

Thanks man..

shad-gt
25 Oct 2006, 09:17
any chance to get the vbseo sitemap hack working with Zoints SEO (CRU in the sitemap)?

greetings

tyler_d
25 Oct 2006, 10:51
any chance to get the vbseo sitemap hack working with Zoints SEO (CRU in the sitemap)?

greetings
i second that request! It would be great :)

ninjashoes
25 Oct 2006, 22:10
sitemaps arent gonna do anything for a forum that already has all its pages linked anyway

aceofspades
26 Oct 2006, 00:59
Hi guys,

First of all, i installed your seo on my last forum and it was super! Unfortunatly this time i seem to be having a problem. When i installed zoints SEO and turned it on, i noticed all of my images were missing and that none on my urls worked.

After looking into it i found out it was missing the forum directory in each url and so it wasnt finding the images / going to the forum or thread, for example it would go to this url:

http://www.myforum.com/forumdisplay....stions-10.html

But the forum isnt in the root, its in the forums folder so it should be this:

http://www.myforum.com/forums/forumd...stions-10.html

If i add the forum directory to the url it works perfectly, but i can only do that manually. How can i tell zoints SEO that my forum isnt root its in the forums folder and that it needs to be adding /forums to each url it optimises. Also, when doing the mod rewrite, do i add the lines to the htaccess in my forums folder or the one in my websites root?

Many thanks for any help you can give!

James

shad-gt
26 Oct 2006, 11:02
sitemaps arent gonna do anyhing for a forum that already has all its pages linked anyway

which Forum has everytime all pages linked?

aceofspades
26 Oct 2006, 17:15
O i have just realised this doesnt work with vb gallery :(

*uninstalled*

phlogiston
26 Oct 2006, 17:20
"Incompatibility with vBA Gallery"

can I just check that all this means is it doesn't rewrite the urls of gallery & image links?
as I have no problems at all running Zoints SEO on a site with vBGallery :S