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MOTY ! vJoomla!
by InfoNirvana
16 May 2007 21:13

This isn't small news for either vB or Joomla!

vB has been MORE than negligent in not getting around to a CMS. I know now for sure I'll never understand why they couldn't come up with something a long time ago. When I say CMS, I mean anything other than just a forum ! /end rant.

Why people have actually stuck with vBulletin when it really is just forum software kind of perplexes me as well.

I have followed vB integration with Joomla! for years. This is a big step forward. If alot of Joomla!'s plugins work, this will be a MASSIVE step forward.

Joomla! is a great CMS. Makes darn functional sites with minimal effort. There are a plethora of modules and components. Very active userbase and a very bright future, 1.5 sounds like a platform for the future.

I "think" FireBoard (released last month) is a frankly reasonable forum for Joomla! which has been missing for a long time. Certainly Fireboard is not vBulletin (but watch out vB!).

People on the Mambo and Joomla forums have been harping for years to get a good forum to integrate into Joomla!.

Michael's uber skills really come to the forefront here - many great coders have failed to bridge Joomla! and vB. To up the ante (especially for vB types) he's added template integration. To ice the cake, there is no vBulletin hacking. Incredible !

MOTM ? uh ... MOT(Year) !

Congrats Michael on some fine work. I am going to try this on my site very soon. Should be interesting to see how a newbie does with it !

InfoNirvana 16 May 2007 21:40

Quickie Q: http://www.enworld.org/reviews.php?do=product <-- is this reviewpost ? :)

Mrdby 16 May 2007 22:50


Alfa1 17 May 2007 00:56


Originally Posted by Michael Morris (Post 1237848)

Will this bridge enable joomla / vb search integration?
Not initially.

I hope this is high on your list.

D2S05 17 May 2007 01:41

Wow, God bless you!!

LockeAG 17 May 2007 03:05

What if my main site is on www.site.com/v1 and my forum on www.site.com/Forum?

Can you make this possible....?

I'm not a coder or else , but I think the patch must be the compleate root of the location of the forum:


Block Disabled:      (Update License Status)  
Suspended or Unlicensed Members Cannot View Code.

well this on a Linux Server


InfoNirvana 17 May 2007 13:10


Originally Posted by Alfa1 (Post 1249135)
I hope [joomla / vb search integration] is high on your list.

Certainly would be nice, but difficult to do.
I feel that Joomla information and vBulletin forum information is easily differentiated by users and searching them would likely be for distinctly different purposes.

If it was easy to search for one or the other that would cover alot of enduser needs.

Michael Morris 17 May 2007 18:14

Hello again all. My day job has been interfering with this project with 12 hour days, so the release time is being pushed back farther than I'd like. I have somethings done, though not in a releaseable package, and this is what I'm working on at present.
  1. I'm currently studying how joomla calls edit bots for a feasability study of replacing Joomla's inbuilt tinyMCE editor with the vbulletin editor. I'm not holding out too much hope for this as the vb editor seems to want to run as one instance of the editor per page - whereas joomla uses multiple instances.
  2. I have written a vbcode mambot that calls up the vbulletin parser library and parses bbcode on joomla posts.
  3. I have also written a mapping routine that runs at install time to map the vbulletin forums to a joomla menu. I'm working on the support libraries for this in vbulletin to keep that menu current, then I need to hack the joomla admin code to prevent that particular menu from being edited in Joomla aside from publishing and unpublishing the entries. This menu exists to allow joomla modules to be assigned on a per forum basis in vbulletin, so you can display one set modules in forum Y and another set in forum B
  4. I'm thinking on a way in joomla to assign vbulletin templates to specific pages. Database side I can just place a styleid code on the jos_menu table then have a vbulletin plugin load that styleid based on the current itemid on joomla pages. The trick is how to get that id there in a user friendly manner - a dropdown with a list of current vbulletin styles would be idea and there is code to build it in the vbadmincp somewhere since it exists in the forum editor, placement is what I'm pondering.
  5. General planned schema of the installer is as follows. I will hack the joomla installer and at the step where it requests db information I will replace that code with an attempt to find the forum in it's three most likely locations (one level lower in /forum, one level higher or same level). If it fails to find the forum then it will ask the user to locate the forum. It will at no point re-request the db info - instead this is pulled from the vbulletin config.php file.

    After it finds the forum db it should auto install it's product xml package into the vb plugin system, run the installer code, then ask how the user wants to map the usergroups in vbulletin to the joomla groups (this can be later changed). The system will also ask which user groups it should go ahead and map into joomla's user table (by default the admin and super admins are the only ones mapped over). Note that vJoomla only normally syncs up the user which have actually visited a joomla page while logged into vbulletin and it works just fine - it doesn't need to keep a perfect copy of the vbulletin user table and doing so (as well as maintaining it) would be a major hassle anyway.

    Once the user map is set vJoomla will conclude as normal Joomla does asking you to delete the install directory.
  6. With the above in place the only other part remaining are components, modules and mambots for joomla that will tighten it's integration with vbulletin. I have these planned:
    • Commenting mambot: This will allow you to map a joomla section, category or content item to a specific thread or a forum. If a forum then a new thread will be created when the first comment is made. On the vbulletin side the "comments" forum can be left visible or hidden.
    • recent threads module - to display recent threads. This will be similar to the ones most portal packages out there use. I will be adding the wrinkle of caching the results to a file on set intervals for big boards
    • hot threads module - as above
    • Who's online - module to show who's online overall, not just who's online in joomla. When I have the time I'll write a companion plugin for vbulletin to trace where the user is online in joomla instead of returning 'unknown location'
    • Search - Joomla has search, as does vbulletin, but long term a search module capacle of searching both simualtaneously is desireable.

Long list - very long. Still working on it. Hope to have an update soon.

RedGTiVR6 17 May 2007 18:19

i would like to thank you for your hard work on this. It is greatly appreciated! Work comes first, no doubt.

Thanks again!

Vegetrunks 17 May 2007 19:36

I want to thank you with a little donation, Michael... paypal? :)

Michael Morris 17 May 2007 19:38

I don't have a paypal account at present. I hope to set up a site for vJoomla sometime this summer though with a donation gateway of some sort.

Taios 18 May 2007 10:29


Originally Posted by Vegetrunks (Post 1249627)
I want to thank you with a little donation, Michael... paypal? :)

Yea, i think a lot of us would like to donate as a thankyou for all your hard work :).

By the way. Is it possible to have a different VB template to the Joomla one? Just i like a different Joomla tempalte and do not want it to inherit the VB one and vice virsa.

O and you should just set up a paypal account since you can still recieve money without verification. Then ste up properly later if need be ;) :)

Michael Morris 19 May 2007 10:02

Version 0.1.2 has been released. The most notable addition is the ubiquitous Recent Threads module without which no CMS tied to vbulletin can be considered complete. Unlike most recent thread modules this one doesn't show user specific details such as threads based off permissions and subscribed threads - instead the module has the ability to cache the results of the query on regular intervals. For large forums this is a critical improvement since recent threads module queries can take forever to resolve on a big board.

Modules can also now be assigned to individual forums so you can customize which modules go where.

EDIT: Also forgot to mention - this is working fine on 3.6.6 (haven't upgraded to 3.6.7 on the dev board because it isn't exposed to the public and so a XSS problem shouldn't be an issue).

RvG2 19 May 2007 11:07

great! thank you for this update :)

Vegetrunks 19 May 2007 12:32


Originally Posted by Michael Morris (Post 1249628)
I don't have a paypal account at present. I hope to set up a site for vJoomla sometime this summer though with a donation gateway of some sort.

Ok, I'm waiting for that. :up:

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