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Lizard King 30 Apr 2008 00:40

The price increase is not bad however the new license renewal option is terrible.

Acers 30 Apr 2008 03:33

^^ I share Lizard's views. Differential renewal rates based on elapsed time are not good imo. It takes away customer choice. The price increase as such is minimal and justifiable over this long a period.

SEOvB 30 Apr 2008 06:57

Can't really complain, its still worth every penny, and everything else has gone up in price why shouldn't forum software be included.

And you can always fine free alternative, and people willing to do installation services for lower prices then listed as well if thats part of your concern

Ohiosweetheart 30 Apr 2008 11:31


Originally Posted by Lizard King (Post 1502841)
The price increase is not bad however the new license renewal option is terrible.

I'll agree with you there. Increasing renewal to $40 is fine. But a $20 "penalty" if you don't renew within a set amount of time is silly.

Marco van Herwaarden 30 Apr 2008 11:38

Some will see it as a penalty, others might see it as a discount if you renew within 60 days of the expiration date.

You can explain this in anyway you want i guess.

Paul M 30 Apr 2008 11:41

I dont think anyone will see it as a discount - people dont think that way when money is concerned. :)

cheat-master30 30 Apr 2008 11:52

The add on product auto free renewal seems to be a great deal though, as it now means that I don't think I have to renew my vBulletin Blog license...

NeuroLancer 30 Apr 2008 12:59

I don't mind the price hike because vBulletin is certainly worth it IMO.

[email protected] Calling any form of a price increase a 'discount' is not a good idea, because if you can call a $40 fee a discount then you must accept one may also call a $60 fee a punishment. Best not to label any of it and just say 'this is how it is now' because it is how Marco says, some will go one way, and others will find the negative. I personally choose to think of it as a loyalty scheme. Makes me feel like im a good vbulletin client, and not someone who's extra cash has gone into buying the developers more wine and lanyards ;)

chick 30 Apr 2008 13:34

Price increase is of course understandable but everything goes up to reflect all the goods increases except MY pay. I hope I'm still alive (due to current age) when the world implodes and everything collapse, so I can see it. Sooner or later!

Price increase will drive more illegal software users. jmo

rapidphim 30 Apr 2008 14:48

You are right chick. There are so many warez sites that redistribute vB's products (software, styles, Mods).

This is so unfair for someone paying for the product (like us) and paying the yearly renewal fee (like us) while others could get them for free.

cheat-master30 30 Apr 2008 14:59

You could always report them, or report them to their host...

rapidphim 30 Apr 2008 15:07

nothing could be done. I have seen so many warez sites still alive and running so well with all movie pirates, IPB (its products), vBulletin (its product)... Even there are sites using illegal copy of vBulletin and generated revenue by offering V.I.P membership for all those pirate products... and again, still alive!

in the other hand, someone paying for the products (like us) has to suffer for the current economy crisis and pricey increase all gas, corn, food... now we have to pay for the price increase in vBulletin.

Don't guess me wrong. I totally agree with this but still.... legally users/customers are getting hit strong.

Ohiosweetheart 30 Apr 2008 16:04

$10 per year is getting hit strong?? I hardly think that a $10 once-a-year renewal fee is going to hurt that bad.
c'mon y'all - save .85 per month and you got it :rolleyes:

itdevil 30 Apr 2008 18:10


Originally Posted by Ohiosweetheart (Post 1503481)
$10 per year is getting hit strong?? I hardly think that a $10 once-a-year renewal fee is going to hurt that bad.
c'mon y'all - save .85 per month and you got it :rolleyes:

The new renewal fee is acceptable but in my personal option the $20 charge on late renewal is not right... it is like they are forcing us upgrade with in 2 months of support expiry if you want to avoid paying another $20.... :down:

chick 30 Apr 2008 18:50

I guess I am thinking out loud and in general economic terms.

Gas is pushing $4 per gal., where I am and, (in 2 years they are reporting it will be $10 a gal. on the east coast of the US), property taxes (Mine taxes have doubled in the last 8 years, but NOT my pay, what does that mean in another 8 years? There is no way I'd be able to pay it. My pay has gone up VERY little in the last 8 years, and the rising cost of food, and just the general cost of everything. I use to be, or thought I was a real middle class person, now I know I'm a very low end of the middle class. There is no longer an even keel.

Sooner or later it has to collapse, history repeats itself and I don't think the majority of people even think about this. The 20's depression will happen again and soon.

Now back to vb. The cost is really a 1 time good size hit (software and brand free if chosen) and the renewal fees don't bother me, it's really the rest of what I've posted and it all adds up.

I have no knowledge of coding but imagine the illegal users could recode their own version of vb software and use it, if they are so skilled at making illegal copies?

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