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GlowHost.com 26 Feb 2011 03:52

Well, I think Stabatha is on the right track. Except, that example appears to be a registered user.

Spam-O-Matic allows you to make a Newbies group, where all your newly registered users go. That usergroup should not have signature permissions (among other things). After 10 posts or whatever you set it to, then they graduate to the registered users group which probably should have signature permissions based on your forum's policy.

We will eventually add the thing in admincp, but in this case the problem is preventable from the get-go.

CheeSie 28 Feb 2011 20:08

I keep getting this when using the spam-o-matic to remove users:

Block Disabled:      (Update License Status)  
Suspended or Unlicensed Members Cannot View Code.


GlowHost.com 28 Feb 2011 20:11

Quote:

Originally Posted by CheeSie (Post 2167941)
I keep getting this when using the spam-o-matic to remove users:

Block Disabled:      (Update License Status)  
Suspended or Unlicensed Members Cannot View Code.

This does not happen on an unmodified board with a properly installed Spam-O-matic. Please make sure your installation is correct and if the issue continues you will have to disable all mods and try it. Then enable them one by one until you find the conflict.

Delphiprogrammi 28 Feb 2011 20:25

there is several outdated code in functions_ghsom.php function calls to

fetch_template();
print_output();

will cause errors as those are 3.8.x (and lower) only

GlowHost.com 28 Feb 2011 22:18

Quote:

Originally Posted by Delphiprogrammi (Post 2167955)
there is several outdated code in functions_ghsom.php function calls to

fetch_template();
print_output();

will cause errors as those are 3.8.x (and lower) only

SOM doesn't use fetch_template(); anymore.

print_output(); is used in vB4 sources so it should not cause any errors.

Delphiprogrammi 01 Mar 2011 17:29

Quote:

Originally Posted by GlowHost.com (Post 2167994)
SOM doesn't use fetch_template(); anymore.

print_output(); is used in vB4 sources so it should not cause any errors.


you're correct about print_output still i see code like


Block Disabled:      (Update License Status)  
Suspended or Unlicensed Members Cannot View Code.

in /includes/functions_ghsom.php it might be me using an outdated file but i don't think so not a serious problem though the system still works fine

g00gl3r 01 Mar 2011 19:24

Will this work with 4.1.2?

GlowHost.com 01 Mar 2011 19:37

Quote:

Originally Posted by Delphiprogrammi (Post 2168284)
you're correct about print_output still i see code like


Block Disabled:      (Update License Status)  
Suspended or Unlicensed Members Cannot View Code.

in /includes/functions_ghsom.php it might be me using an outdated file but i don't think so not a serious problem though the system still works fine

You must be running an older version. The latest version was redone to use vB_Template class instead of outdated functions

Quote:

Originally Posted by g00gl3r (Post 2168333)
Will this work with 4.1.2?

Yes.

rolfw1 01 Mar 2011 19:39

Quote:

Originally Posted by g00gl3r (Post 2168333)
Will this work with 4.1.2?

Yes, working with my 4.1.2, great mod.:)

Delphiprogrammi 03 Mar 2011 20:11

Quote:

Originally Posted by GlowHost.com (Post 2168336)
You must be running an older version. The latest version was redone to use vB_Template class instead of outdated functions

you're right :o sorry

maokaang 04 Mar 2011 09:50

I think I may have found a problem with "Put New User Into Newbies Group".

If enabled while the standard vBulletin "Verify Email address in Registration" is also set to Yes, the verification process still goes through the motions, but is being bypassed because members are placed straight into the Newbies Group rather than "Users Awaiting Email Confirmation".

The user still receives a verification email, but when the verification link is clicked they get a message saying they're already verified. Email verification would appear to be rendered useless.

I have for now disabled Glowhost's "Put New User Into Newbies Group" and have instead replaced the process using vBulletin's standard Promotions facility.

GlowHost.com 04 Mar 2011 19:59

Good information, I will look into it.

But one thing to consider is, if email validation worked as intended, you would not have any bots. The bots are able to get past this process. So having it means an extra step for your human visitors. So ask yourself the question of if human validation is more important than putting all new registrations in the newbies group thereby limiting the damage potential a bot can do...

I agree with you that if this problem exists, we should try to get it working as intended. But I see not much value in email verification these days considering the bots get right by it and there is always a chance your legit users have the verification email undelivered due to many email factors. You might actually end up loosing legit users which is the opposite of what you are wanting to do.

Alfa1 05 Mar 2011 02:06

You are forgetting that the email validation is not only to block spam bots, but also to prevent to become a spammer yourself. If you do not validate emails, then your site is sending large quantities of email to unrelated and inexistent email addresses. Therefore you would be sending spam and risk your site to be blacklisted as a spammer.

GlowHost.com 05 Mar 2011 02:17

I have no idea what you mean actually. You have no control over the email address that the spam bot registers with, and thus the system sends the validation link to whomever the spam bot told it to go. So sending large quantities of email to illegitimate users is beyond your control unless you disable email validation, which is along the lines of my first post.

What did I miss? Can you give us an example scenario of what you mean?

Sw0rDz 06 Mar 2011 01:24

I'm curious if Glow Host anti-spam generates this error? Can someone with Glowhost try to validate a thread via mod panel?

I get this error:
Quote:

Fatal error: Call to a member function load_engine() on a non-object in /usr/local/etc/httpd/zd.telefragged.com/forum/includes/class_dm_threadpost.php(950) : eval()'d code on line 3
Special Note: You need to try and validate more then just 1 thread.


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