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https://www.vbulletin.org/forum/showthread.php?t=248042

GlowHost.com 10 Aug 2010 12:50

Not sure what you mean by "Akismet as handled by Spam-O-Matic is ENABLED with ID." sounds to me like you have some strange setup or the vB Akismet is conflicting.

If you want me to have a look PM me your admin logins so I can see what you have setup. I'd like to see the moderated posts as well.

BadgerDog 10 Aug 2010 13:02

Quote:

Originally Posted by GlowHost.com (Post 2081690)
Not sure what you mean by "Akismet as handled by Spam-O-Matic is ENABLED with ID." sounds to me like you have some strange setup or the vB Akismet is conflicting.

If you want me to have a look PM me your admin logins so I can see what you have setup. I'd like to see the moderated posts as well.

I meant that I put in the field you provided my actual Akismet ID, which I thought you'd might want to be aware of for your trouble shooting. ;)

Running vb4.04pl1 with nothing odd about it other than pretty standard add-ons that I bet at least 50% of people here run as well .... and to reiterate, vBulletin's new Akismet "Anti-Spam" option was turned OFF in the recent testing as per your suggestion.

Have gone back to vBStopForum mod for now, as I can't afford to have 13,000+ members sending me emails at all hours of the day complaining about their posts being moderated when there's nothing wrong with them.

Will happily do more testing as future releases come out and more people post results, including any validated conflicts.

Thanks for your efforts .. :)

Regards,
Badger

GlowHost.com 10 Aug 2010 13:32

Sounds good. It sounds like your specific issue is related to Aisemet checking every single post. Akismet found something in their DB that triggered a flag to moderate the post.

This will be changed in the next version to be more flexible in regard to which posts to ignore.

BadgerDog 10 Aug 2010 13:48

Quote:

Originally Posted by GlowHost.com (Post 2081701)
Sounds good. It sounds like your specific issue is related to Aisemet checking every single post. Akismet found something in their DB that triggered a flag to moderate the post.

This will be changed in the next version to be more flexible in regard to which posts to ignore.


I agree with you ... :)

In my opinion, checking every post of every user group is a waste of time most of the time and if you added an option to NOT check above x posts, it would solve this problem.

Regards,
Badger

cfish 11 Aug 2010 22:03

OK, so I set the folder names for modcp and admincp back to the default and tried using the options in the user manager but I get exactly the same problem. A strange alert box as shown in the image attached to my previous post and nothing happens. The mod does a fine job of preventing spammers from registering but it doesn't allow us to ban or remove users.

What am I doing wrong?

GlowHost.com 11 Aug 2010 22:15

That's the first I have heard of it.

Are you running any other mods?
Are you running the original mod or the one you modified?
Have you tried a different browser?

onehost 12 Aug 2010 02:04

Mod Installed Perfectly. Hopefully it can hold up to spammers now :)

onehost 12 Aug 2010 06:43

I need help with this mod...

a user signed up earlier on my forum today, then emailed me saying he signed up, got confirmed, but could not get on, I looked for the user up and down, and vb showed nothing, then i looked in spam-o-matic logs...and this is what it said...

Spammer Found and rejected.

I did not even get notified, nor did it place him in que for moderation..if the user tried to signup again, then it will just flag him again..

1 why did the mod not send him to que so i can decide if he deserves a ban?
2: why was i not notified at all?
3: if he does not appear in vb records, then how can I unban his IP from spam-o-matic
so the system does not flag him again? I see no record that he exists at all, yet he
can not signup or login...

This sucks..

wth..

GlowHost.com 12 Aug 2010 10:09

Quote:

Originally Posted by onehost (Post 2082531)
I need help with this mod...

...and this is what it said...

Spammer Found and rejected.

And did it tell you why he was found and rejected? (IP, Email, Username)

Quote:

I did not even get notified, nor did it place him in que for moderation.
You will need to read the description of this mod more carefully.

1 )It does not email you each time it tags a spammer, your inbox would be flooded with junkmail from Spam-O-Matic. Instead it logs them.

2) It does not place users in a queue for moderation. It places posts in the moderation queue. If they are not registered, they can't be queued.

Quote:

if the user tried to signup again, then it will just flag him again
Maybe, maybe not. It depends on the answer to my first question, why was he banned in the first place?

Quote:

1 why did the mod not send him to que so i can decide if he deserves a ban?
2: why was i not notified at all?
3: if he does not appear in vb records, then how can I unban his IP from spam-o-matic
so the system does not flag him again? I see no record that he exists at all, yet he
can not signup or login...
1. There is no user moderation, there is post moderation.
2. Spam-O-Matic logs things, it does not email about them
3. You can't unban his IP from Spam-O-Matic because Spam-O-Matic is not where the "banned" IPs are stored. Those IPs are stored on StopForumSpam.com which is where Spam-O-Matic gets its data from. So if your user is tagged as a Spammer because of his IP then you can turn off IP checks or you can tun your cache down to something lower than the default 90 days.
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GlowHost.com 12 Aug 2010 19:32

Version 1.2 has been released with new goodies, primarily fixes and additional settings for Akismet and Auto-Moderation.

Enjoy!

Phalynx 12 Aug 2010 19:59

Installed! Thanks for sharing.

onehost 12 Aug 2010 20:04

Quote:

Originally Posted by GlowHost.com (Post 2082570)
And did it tell you why he was found and rejected? (IP, Email, Username)



You will need to read the description of this mod more carefully.

1 )It does not email you each time it tags a spammer, your inbox would be flooded with junkmail from Spam-O-Matic. Instead it logs them.

2) It does not place users in a queue for moderation. It places posts in the moderation queue. If they are not registered, they can't be queued.


Maybe, maybe not. It depends on the answer to my first question, why was he banned in the first place?



1. There is no user moderation, there is post moderation.
2. Spam-O-Matic logs things, it does not email about them
3. You can't unban his IP from Spam-O-Matic because Spam-O-Matic is not where the "banned" IPs are stored. Those IPs are stored on StopForumSpam.com which is where Spam-O-Matic gets its data from. So if your user is tagged as a Spammer because of his IP then you can turn off IP checks or you can tun your cache down to something lower than the default 90 days.

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You are asking me why your mod banned him, seriously? Was he in the spammer Database, and that was why he was rejected? He is helping me, so I knew he is not spamming my forum, soI am not sure what he does on other forums, but regardless, it flagged and rejected him instantly...We need a way to white list users that we know, what I do not need is a maybe or maybe not he will be flagged and rejected again, if it flags him again, I will disable the mod as useless..if it will not give users a chance to plea their case if they are flagged on mistake, or if they are rejected, at least throw the user into a user group for review and for them to have a way to at least contact admin just in case they may not be a spammer.

GlowHost.com 12 Aug 2010 20:16

Quote:

You are asking me why your mod banned him, seriously?
What I wasn't asking for were rude remarks, threats or demands.

I am writing a program for you for FREE and was willing to help you for FREE to remedy your specific problem. Asking people for things nicely goes a long way.

I was asking what the log said was the specific reason for the ban.

Usergroups are coming in version 1.3 but you can get by without them if you look at the logs to see why they were banned (username, email, IP) and disable that check or turn the "StopForumSpam: Remote Expiry" down a bit to something like 10.

onehost 12 Aug 2010 20:23

I was not rude. I am telling you how it is.
What threat?
I am not demanding anything. You can surely do what you
want with the mod. I will run it or I won't.

Gemma 12 Aug 2010 20:40

Thanks for the update :)


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