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Are your logs updated indicating the submission was successful? If yes, then they were submitted because that is a response from SFS indicating the successful submission. |
I turned Akismet off a week after I installed this mod. The false positives I am talking about now are during registration when this mod rejects legitimate users. I get emails from users all the time who ask for help registering because they get rejected on some random ip check.
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1) Turn off the IP check or 2) keep IP check on and turn "StopForumSpam: Remote Expiry" down to something less less, like 10 so that only newly found IPs are checked, instead of stuff from 3 months ago (90) At the end of the day, if it is picking up their IPs spam did come from that IP at some point. Likely those who complain are in Internet cafes overseas where spammers like to play, which ends up getting everyone punished. Might encourage them to find a more reliable ISP that better controls spam if that is the case. On the other hand, if that IP has been playing nice lately, and you set a low threshold of 10 or so, it might help you and the users since that IP would be expired from results. The email check is the most effective anyways, so simply turning off the IP check is probably best for your situation since your other registration checks seem to be strong enough for you. Hope it helps, if not, I tried. :) |
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I can find no record of any submission in the user logs for either of the tests we conducted ... Regards, Badger |
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I did find one bug there for another reported issue where a certain combination of options just reloaded the page, that is fixed but I would like to see if we can pinpoint your issue before making another release. |
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Will advise as soon as I have that set of circumstances .... BTW, still no sign of the spammers I sent to StopForumSpam using the AdminCP add-on for user settings, so there must be a problem with that part of it ... Regards, Badger |
I suggest disabling email, username and IP checks for a while so that a spammer can get on your boards otherwise we may be waiting a while for one to get through the system.
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The first reason being is I don't want to make a new release every day for minor issues that have workarounds (this one has a workaround, which is to delete posts as spam instead of using the user option in admincp) The second reason being this function is deprecated in version 2.0 which we are in release candidate stages for version 2.0 already. I am trying not to back-pedal too much. In 2.0 the function in the user profile has been removed in favor of an option on the moderator tools called "Spam-O-Matic" in the postbit which will take care of everything without having to login to admincp, find the user, select the options, and ban them which is a time consuming process. Everything is done in one step from the post itself in version 2. |
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I understand and believe that condition is fixed in the next release.
The workaround I see for the time being, which no one has really answered yet, is what happens when you use the "Delete Posts As Spam" option? This should take care of the user and submit them as well. |
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The only problem I have had since the beginning is that in the log viewer, when a post is moderated, clicking on the link for the past takes me to domain.com/admincp verus domain.com/forum/admincp, so anything you can do when clicking on that link is useless unless you manually edit the link in the browser.
Could this possibly be the issue with submittig spammers via the admincp mentioned above, maybe it is referencing the wrong URL? I run this mod on several forums and they all have the same issue with the incorrect URL. Oh, I guess I should add that I have never been able to submit the data via the admincp and always figured it was just because of the bad url. |
1.2.6 is online. Fixes the bug with not being able to submit details to SFS from user profile in admincp.
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I'm getting an error in the admin panel when I submit to SFS after updating to the newest version..
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This is working somewhat but I am encountering the same problem others have mentioned .... it conflicts with the automatic RSS poster ... I have an ADMIN account (News) that automatically posts based on various RSS feeds ... SpamOMatic puts these threads in Moderation mode no matter what I try. The NEWS user has over 3,000 posts and my settings have the cut off at 6 posts so it should not be moderating this user.
My settings: --------- vBulletin Spam Scanning: Disabled Akismet: Disabled Auto-Moderation: Enabled Min Post Count: 6 Url Count: 0 It should be ignoring the NEWS user and it doesn't -- throws every RSS post in moderation. I've tried all variations with no luck ... any ideas? I don't want to uninstall as it really has curbed the spam registrants!!! |
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If the attached gets rid of those errors and works, please let me know and I will make it an official release for the 3.x series of vB. (fingers crossed) |
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Consider turning off auto-moderation for the time being and enjoy the reduced spammers on the board from the other features. I will look into why RSS is being ignored in the meantime. |
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Quick question for this mod.
I know we can go in an see the log of spammers that were denied registration because something came back in akismet or stopforumspam. I have tried to help keep SFS up to date by manually submitting data from those logs, but I am giving up on that as it takes way too long. Is there any way to add an option where all registrations that are denied automatically get submitted to SFS? The mod already has our API key, and submitting the spammer data automatically would make sure that the SFS database is updated to show that the email, ip, username, is being used right now and with whatever frequency. In stopforumspam, we have the ability to go in and delete spammers that we submitted if we find out it was a false positive, so automatically submitting the spam data when registration is denied seems like it would be a great addition. Just a thought, this is a great mod, my favorite and most used for sure. This mod is actually so useful, that I would have paid money to get my hands on it. Thanks for everything. |
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Installed 1.27 yesterday ...
Submitted a test case (not in their database) by manual submission to StopForumSpam site at that time .... As of today, it still hasn't appeared ... Wouldn't it be a good idea to have feedback to the manual submitter in the log or on the screen that this action has been accepted by their site etc.? Second observation ... Just had my first legitimate spam poster since 1.27 installed. They made one post which appeared as moderated, so I assume your Akismet check got them as I don't have the moderate posts enabled in your in 1.27? Anyway, I selected "delete as spam" and chose to ban the user as well as delete all their posts. When I submitted it, the screen cleared and some strange black (maybe dark gray) screen flashed by, one that has a lot of text on it, however the text was dark against the dark background, so I really couldn't read it except it was an entire screen full of data (looked like a forum display maybe?). The screen returned to a readable format and I went to check the StopForumSpam site. The name of the user I banned was immediately there as the last name in my spammers listing, so, at least this test seemed to work, but the manual one hasn't so far .. Hope this helps ... Regards, Badger |
Hi.. I have install it but cannot find where is it in my forum. Can u tell me where it is locate. Thanks
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As for the logs and indication of submission success, it is also in version 2. |
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I checked with SFS. If they are in there today, and I do not report them, then maybe tomorrow they will have been in there 11 days total (since last reported), with nobody reporting them because they are already in there. If someone has their spam-o-matic to only go back 10 in the SFS DB, then this spammer would not have given a hit if the last submission was 11 days back (not within the 10 day window). If I had submitted them "yesterday", then they would have got a hit and I could have helped keep one spammer off someone elses site. Not sure if that make sense, but eventually, if the spammers stop getting reported, based on how far you set the spam-o-matic to go back in the SFS DB, if they are never reported after the ifrst reporting, eventually they will not get a hit for someone. It is actually in everyone's best interest to report them even if they are already in there. This keeps their list up to date so they are still shown as "active". Hope that made sense above. |
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You can also see the logs at AdminCP / Statistics and Logs / Glowhost-Spam-o-matic logs |
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However the AIM is to report people who have actually posted spam on your boards, not to report the ones that tried to register using information already found in the SFS DB. That could lead to more false positives then needed especially in regards to IP addresses. Quote:
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Its nice to see 3 important hacks combined.
Is there any chance to also get: - minimal registration speed check - hidden registration fields (that only bots can see) That would make this complete. |
Its possible.
I like the sound of the first one but am not sure how useful the second one would be since the spammers that code the bots are people, and they generally are going to want to see the fields that they are trying to defeat when they program their bots. If a bot doesn't know what to put in a field, it will be bank, the same as a human who can't see the field. This might also cause accessibility problems for some people who rely on bots like screen-readers to do things for them. Maybe I missed the concept of the second idea though. |
Many vb boards have mandatory custom profile fields. Spam bots need to fill these in to register. Every board has different custom fields, so spammers have little chance to anticipate. It would be easy to add invisible fields with standard names. If you add a hidden profile field named 'Interests' then chances are that a bot will recognize this and fill it in. There used to be a addon that did this, but cant find it ATM.
Two other suggestion that would make this anti-spam suite complete are:
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Thanks for the suggestions, it would be good to have a central DB of disable emails, I agree.
This does not deal with profile spam, or blog spam at the moment. Those are planned for a later release. The primary purpose is to block registrations of known-spammers, then moderate the ones that are able to sneak past so that they never get as far as being able to spam in the first place. |
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This addon works very well: Multiple Account Detection & Prevention It seems a perfect combination with your addon. (as is vmail) |
Probably not. Only people use cookies and spammers are rarely people. The other thing is people can delete cookies.
What I meant was that if they get past the blacklist checks then in the current version if they do anything "spammy" they will generally be caught by auto-moderation and moderated. In version 2 all new members are placed in a new usergroup which has (configurable) limited permissions. If they make it past X posts they will graduate to the standard registered users group. If they do anything spammy in either group they will be moderated, until they are no longer checked for automatic moderation based on your postcount settings. Your spammer would have to be a very persistent and bored person to make it to the registered users group and if they are that much of a pain in the butt then banning their IP from your server is always an option. I think it would be a rare day. |
I do use a usergroup for new users, which they can only get out of if they receive 5 reputation points. That does work like a charm. Post count is something that spam bots seem to recognize, as they just start posting like crazy to get more than X posts. That caused me to put it the post count at 50. My staff catches them well before they can make that, as they are there around the clock.
I would expect that same about cookies, but I actually catch a very substantial number of spammers trough cookie. Happens every day. Even after all of the above (including all of my suggestions and multiple account detection) we still get spammers, that try to circumvent the links block, in various creative ways. All these measures did get rid of 99% of all spam though, so its vital functionality for me. To get an idea: I get 7.000 registrations attempts per month, of which 4.000 are successful and have confirmed their email and passed all spam checks. I have 3.000 banned members. |
a suggestion for spammers who already are a memebe on the board, how do you preven them, you know they dont only spam by posting thread but they also spam all members on pm with the llinks so how can this mod prevent further spam
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There is not much you can do about existing spammers with this mod. This mod prevents them from getting on the boards in the first place. You should probably install it now to prevent more bad guys from signing up, then start working on your existing spammers using alternative means.
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here is one.
I have people / spammers registering on my forum...but afterwood disappear into nothingness, no trace of the members name or anything... this is what i find in spam matic log: Venusian Arts PUA Spam-O-Matic Tagged ip - 98.64.196.143 - Spammer Found but allowed It says it has identified the spammer, but has allowed the spammer. So i can not find any record of the member in non-validated to registered to banned, the member record is just no where to be found.... on another signup attempt, I get this one: No Username Submitted Spam-O-Matic Tagged email - (email) Spammer Found but allowed. Whats going on? |
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thanks its strong to stop spam
but when i tried to update any username file in my forum i face this note :
by the way : the note apear again when i sign out from forum !!! any solutions plz ?? |
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Meaning they passed the Spam-O-Matic firewall and then where they went from there is anyone's guess. |
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http://www.vbulletin.org/forum/showp...&postcount=220 Let me know how it goes. |
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I would prefer to have real visitors rather then spam traffic.... which do nothing for me... I guess I can not complain, if I did have real traffic then they would not be bothered much by spammers as it is doing its job. |
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thank u very much its working :) best regards |
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I'm getting the same error:
/includes/functions_ghsom.php on line 386 Running 4.0.5 |
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Also 6FRGaming View Post that isn't the full error I guess. Do you have the full error? |
Mine was the same error as above, and it gave me the error whenever I tried PMing the banned person, or doing anything with a banned person.
I noticed that whatever action I was doing still happened, despite getting the error. So not a big deal, but kind of weird. |
Same problem like ramtha in 1.2.6 and 1.2.7beta on a 4.0.7 while banning a user:
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the best way is to remove the spammer from your database , not to ban , because you lose more time .. then for the GlowHost maybe if you can add a MASS REMOVE USERS :) because i have a lot of new accounts created who are robots :-s
Fatal error: Call to a member function query() on a non-object in [path]/forum/includes/functions_ghsom.php on line 386 only i add the option : Remove user , delete all posts and report to StopSpamForum ... (i think is because the users dosen't have any post 100% ) but at least to not showing that error anymore or to write something "the user dosen't have any post " depends of the error .. keep it up , is very good the mod . thanks |
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1. Use the vBulletin class_vurl instead of native curl, less trouble and then its vbulletins fault for "mysql gone away" errors 2. wrap the process in this so that vbulletin deals with reg errors first, thus not having to deal with excess logging
and finally, some credit for reusing my code wouldnt go amiss. |
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You and MonkeyStop are in there :) |
I must be going mad (well, thats a gimme) or blind as I cant see it :) Anyway, best of luck, Im way to busy with the database site so Im glad someone picked this up
There are a couple of other things that I had in vbStopForumSpam 0.7 that never made it out the door. one was calling all three fields from the API to cut down on the api calls for busy forums and the other was this one...
Fixes a possible false hit. .. casted my vote :) edit : oh wait, now I see it |
Hey i installed v1.2.4 on a 3.8.6 board. Suddenly couldn't make any new threads with images in cause the threads got placed automatically in the moderation queue
I found out that it was the spam o matic mod that was causing the problem so i uninstalled and tried the newest version 1.2.6 but the same problem still occour? Any fix on this would be very appreciated |
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Thanks for the vote for MOTM and code contributions of course! |
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I suppose this is not a show-stopper bug as "Delete Posts As Spam" handles this process without error. However, if reporting users who have no posts is the root of this problem, this should not happen in version 2.0 as it will be impossible to report users who have no posts. The admin ban function will be removed in favor of a mod to the moderation tools menu in the postbit which fires the removal wizard directly from the front-end instead of having to login to admincp to get rid of the user. It is similar in the way that version 1.x works now when using "Delete Posts As Spam" is used, but much slicker. |
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First I love this app. Especially the ability to ban, remove posts and sent to stop spam website in one click. However, it has since stopped working for me. When i choose the options ban, remove all posts and send to sopt spam i now get this error message: Fatal error: Call to a member function query() on a non-object in /home/crna/includes/functions_ghsom.php on line 386 Here is the actual lines from that php, 385 - 389.
If i simply choose to ban user and send to stop forum it seems to work fine, but when i choose the remove all posts that is where the error occurs. Then after the error when i go through the control panel to try and find "all user posts" so i can delete them it says their are none yet they are still there in the forum. In order to delete them I have to go into the forum itself, into the user profile on the forum find all posts then delete them. Very odd EDIT: Ok upon further testing my "find posts by user" function through admin cp all the sudden no longer works at all... WTH? Ideas? |
Well, scripts don't generally just break unless something changed. Something probably changed on the server itself, or with your vB installation if other things not related to Spam-O-Matic do not work. Perhaps you have some other mods causing issues, or your host changed php version, or your forum was compromised. It can be a number of things.
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Well at this point nothing new has been done except for the vbexperience recent update, my server company has not changed anything and as far as i can tell there isnt any breech in the forum... How can i track this down? It does seem that find posts works on some users and not on others. |
Does disabling this mod change anything? Does disabling other mods change anything? That is the first place to start.
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Yah that was the first thing i tried, disabled glowhost -> still cannot find posts on random users disabled vbexperience -> same not sure what to do.. |
Well, if the mods are not doing it it must be in the forum code itself. May need to re-install vB or ask vB to do it for you. Hopefully you are running the latest secure version of vB.
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Yah im runnin 4.0.6 and i put in a support ticket as well. I did an update post count and got similar errors.. Warning: session_start() [function.session-start]: Cannot send session cookie - headers already sent by (output started at [path]/includes/adminfunctions.php:3692) in [path]/includes/functions_ghsom.php on line 378 |
How do you get that? Trying to submit a user from the admincp? If yes, with which options? Does the user you are trying to submit have any posts?
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That error is through the admin cp -> maintenance -> update counters -> Update Post Counts And i get a LONG list of these:
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Did you try the 1.2.7 beta mentioned a few posts back? In any case if you can wait a little while longer for version 2.0 I just tested what you said on our boards and cannot duplicate it. In any case it should not affect processing, its just ugly. |
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We will probably add functions for this in a later release but chances are they are not going to make it into the blogs or profiles if you place them in the "New Users" group which requires a certain amount of legitimate posts before they are moved to the registered users group. The Registered Users group may or may not have blog or comment permissions based on your settings.
Your New Users group (Newbies) should not have profile or blog options available to them, and should have a very limited feature set. Once they have proven their worth, they graduate to registered users. What you do with them from there is up to your personal configuration settings in vBulletin. |
Profile fields are very useful to identify valid signups. Problem is that spammers will fill these fields with spam links. Blog can be restricted by usergroup settings. Profile fields are part of registration.
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When I click submit user to StopForumSpam.com in the users profile in the AdminCP, then I go to the website and look in My Spammers, they are not listed. I have the right API key, is there something else I need to do?
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Your best bet is to ask that question on the StopForumSpam.com website. They have a forum in there that may have the answer or you can surely ask them if there is some delay before the results become available when submitting details via the API.
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From our point, no, a correct API is all you need but youll need to ask the author about the rest, on the vbulletin thread as I dont think he comes here too often. So, they are throwing it back to you. |
I don't run their website so I have no idea where it goes after you submit it. I just know it ends up in their database. They might be doing something like not displaying the results immediately to conserve on server resources, but they will know the answer for sure.
Try to submit some garbage user that you have made on your forum, then try to register again with that address after submitting it to SFS, it should be detected by the SPam-O-Matic firewall when you try to register again. But for the sake of keeping this thread on topic, please post the URL to your thread on their forum so that others with the same question can get the answer. I will post over there and try to get a better answer as well, once I have the link. |
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I installed this today. Have not tested it yet (no opportunity to) BUT I did do the update post counts which is where I was able to get the error before and it is now fixed. So seems to me you figured it out dude. I voted for you as mod of the month. You deserve it. Quote:
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after installing the mod, I get error 500 when a user tries to register. The username is created, but e-mail is not dispatched and member isn't notified. Also when deleting a user form admincp I get error 500 as well. Disabling the product makes everything function normal. Any suggestions?
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kinda off subject but i use glow host for all 4 of my forums and been with them 3 years plus. great service and great people for those looking for hosting. them knowing vbulletin is a big plus also
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Unfortunately, after installing the latest version (and upgrading to vb4.07) this breaks the user editing function after you ban a user and ask to include their posts to be deleted. If I try to edit any user via the control panel, I get a DB error. If I try to send a PW confirmation reminder, same thing ... database error. I disable the product and everything works normally.
Database error in vBulletin 4.0.7: Invalid SQL: DELETE FROM tfltm_post WHERE userid=4388);; The userid is the banned user and his posts. Now, on any user editing function, this error is generated. |
I have not tested 4.0.7 yest because it just came out, but really because I had not planned on it due to it being a maintenance release.
I generally don't update our forums unless there is a security release or major bug fix for reasons such as this. In other words I don't like introducing more bugs into my forums unless it is really important reason to upgrade, like a security release. I will have to see if any others on 4.0.7 have this issue. That said, if any 4.0.7 users have the same issue please let me know and I will see about getting a fix out there. |
after installing version v1.2.7 i went to log out to test things and got this message
Warning: require_once(includes/functions_ghsom.php) [function.require-once]: failed to open stream: No such file or directory in [path]/includes/class_dm_user.php(1853) : eval()'d code on line 3 Fatal error: require_once() [function.require]: Failed opening required 'includes/functions_ghsom.php' (include_path='.:/usr/lib/php:/usr/local/lib/php') in /home/stcroixl/public_html/includes/class_dm_user.php(1853) : eval()'d code on line 3 after i uninstalled i was able to log out no problem. i am using the latest version vbulletin 4.0.7. i hope we can get this working with it |
Paul, did you have this working before on an earlier version or just tried to install it now?
The first error says that you have not uploaded the files to the correct location or that they are corrupt. Please checkout the readme file and make sure you have uploaded everything correctly. Since I see from a previous post, that you are a GlowHost customer we can probably handle this for you if you are not sure how to get the files where they need to be. |
ya i need some help. all i did was upload the html file. guess i did it wrong let me see if i can figure it out. thank you for quick reply. gonna try again now. you all see why i like glow host. service is awesome.
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ok not sure what i am doing. so i uploaded each file separate to my root from upload file which would be. this is my first try. i never did before
glowhostspamomatic.php in admin cp file functions_gshom.php from includes fil bitfield and cpnav files from the html folder last but not least uploaded the product in admin panel and it still didnt work. got errors. i am sure i am doing something wrong but not sure what (: |
Hi Paul,
It looks like one of the techs has your vBulletin admincp logins at our helpdesk. He is going to do a fresh install of this mod on your 4x board. |
Whoops, I spoke too soon. I see you didn't provide the logins...
My understanding of the ticket is that you want instructions on how to do this correctly yourself. I think its a good idea. Learning the basic principles is commendable. I am eager to hear your report. |
awesome we got it working with 4.0.7 and i tried most functions and everything works great. thank you glow host. just nominated this mod for motm. i tried the banning, editing threads, banning a member and unbanning and it all works fine. thank you for the great support glowhost. as you know i am an older gentleman with very limited computer skills but learning every day
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i just installed by myself this time on vbulletin 3.8.3 forum :) no problems i can find. it actually stopped 2 registrations within the first 15 minutes it was installed. thanks for your help.
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excellent tool i am facing less problem with spammers after i installed this add on thanks :)
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Greetings, I have found a bug.
When looking at the logs I came across this as a link: Found in Akismet Database. Held for moderation: When clicking it it doesn't redirect to the right location. The link points at: http://website.com/modcp/moderate.php?do=posts vs http://website.com/messageboard/modcp/moderate.php?do=posts Looks like it was hardcoded vs trying to pull the bburl variable. |
I do not say this offten, but I think this is one of the best spam mods you can
have on your forum, and if you do not use this, then you deserve the spam you get :) and I do not even fully have it enabled. My forum has been up for 40+ days, and not one spammer bot has gotten past registeration. I see more spam bots try, rather then real traffic...I wonder if i should just open a spam forum :) Use this mod along with duplicate accounts, no proxy, and you cant go wrong. |
Hi TeknoSounds,
Your are correct. It is already fixed in 2.0 along with a slew of other log fixes. Thank you for the report in any case. We will hopefully see you back here in a couple of weeks when 2.0 becomes public. :) |
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Installed on vB 4.0.7, so far no issues, works perfectly and effective.
Nominated motm! |
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