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What vB4 miss to be attractive?
by SilverBoy
07 Jul 2019 22:46

Hi there

Internet growing fast, and all applications and web pages needs to go with the trend if we want to stay in the market.

vBulletin 4 is very old now, and misses so many features which is very important to users because they used to use it from modern forums, web applications and off curse social media.

So what are the most missed features for vB4 to stay in today web standards, and if there is any product in the market to provide forums with any of these features tell us about it.

Sincerely Yours.

Dave 07 Jul 2019 23:45

In my opinion it does not really miss anything. It's just that it's hard to compete with social media sites such as Facebook, Twitter and Instagram.

In Omnibus 08 Jul 2019 00:45

I agree with Dave. It's not missing anything in terms of being a forum. It's just not on par with the trend toward social media based platforms. The two are at cross purposes. They serve very different interests.

Alan_SP 08 Jul 2019 19:41

Really good mobile skin(s).

SilverBoy 08 Jul 2019 22:02

I'm not agree with you Dave and In Omnibus ..
vB4 not missing anything in terms of being a forum which is exist before 10 years, but it is not meet today web standards and the global mood for new generations of users.

In Omnibus 08 Jul 2019 22:30

Quote:

Originally Posted by SilverBoy (Post 2599772)
I'm not agree with you Dave and In Omnibus ..
vB4 not missing anything in terms of being a forum which is exist before 10 years, but it is not meet today web standards and the global mood for new generations of users.

vBulletin 4 was coded using desktop first coding because that was still industry standard ten years ago. So was HTML 4.0 and CSS 2. It wasn't until relatively recently that mobile use exceeded desktop use. When that happened most developers began to code mobile first using the newest industry standards, HTML 5 and CSS 3.

You can find mobile themes for vBulletin 4 but they were usually coded by third party coders who may or may not have elected to charge for them. I know at least three third party designers who made very good vBulletin mobile themes but they are not free, nor should they be free. Designing a theme from scratch takes a good deal of time and effort.

I don't know what you expect from a forum but they don't build themselves no matter which software you use. If your content is quality everything else falls into place. Bells and whistles may get people to look but it won't get anyone to stick around. Even as a designer I can tell you that window dressing is not going to keep people coming back.

Forums are an entirely different niche from social media and it's a mistake to try and compete with social media at the things they do well. You can't compete with Facebook for traffic. It has something like 1.5 billion users. You can't compete with Twitter for simplicity. It allows 280 characters or something like that.

Everyone here has an opinion and I'm sure people will be lining up to disagree with mine but I think the key to success as a forum is to be passionate about what you are doing and to emphasize the benefits of a forum over social media, such as a wealth of focused knowledge and in-depth discussion. You don't get that on social media.

SilverBoy 08 Jul 2019 22:54

I just wonder to know about the designers which you mentioned in your reply, could you provide me with their websites?

In Omnibus 09 Jul 2019 02:07

Quote:

Originally Posted by SilverBoy (Post 2599774)
I just wonder to know about the designers which you mentioned in your reply, could you provide me with their websites?

Here are a few:

https://sultantheme.com/vb4forum/forum.php

https://themeforest.net/item/metro-a...-and-5/3555714

http://www.purevb.com/vbulletin-skins/vbulletin-4/

SilverBoy 13 Jul 2019 00:26

Thanks In Omnibus,I think Sultan Theme the only one of the three which offers responsive styles!!, Am I right? and is it HTML 5 or not?

Meister2017 27 Jul 2019 23:08

The Metro Theme is not repository. Please give the 3rd provider :).

SilverBoy 28 Jul 2019 00:10

is purevb provide responsive styles?

Meister2017 28 Jul 2019 01:53

neither. Thus, In Omnibus must call us 2 providers:D.

In Omnibus 28 Jul 2019 10:17

Just because the specific theme linked doesn't meet your needs doesn't mean that developer doesn't make one that does. It means you have to contact them and inquire.

I develop themes for my clients so they don't have these problems. I charge $100 an hour with a ten hour minimum so let me know if you'd rather pay SultanTheme or me.

lange 29 Jul 2019 17:02

Quote:

Originally Posted by In Omnibus (Post 2599779)

I almost bought 60% of all Sultantheme themes (VB5 & VB3) and many hours of custom development. No issues. Jamil is a very good and fast designer. I recommend him.

scottkoz20 31 Jul 2019 04:12

Quote:

Originally Posted by lange (Post 2600017)
I almost bought 60% of all Sultantheme themes (VB5 & VB3) and many hours of custom development. No issues. Jamil is a very good and fast designer. I recommend him.

this is something that i didn't know existed until today (errr, yesterday :D )! With a bunch of the custom tools on my site nearly ready to go mobile responsive, this is killer to find now!


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