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LVC 14 Jul 2011 01:18

OK
so this only works if I select spam-o-matic from the inline mod tool.

If I suspend somebody through the CPAdmin tool --- the user is not affected by spam-o-matic settings (such as easy clean-up) correct?



Quote:

Originally Posted by GlowHost.com (Post 2220261)
It only does what you tell it to. Look at the page you are going to submit and check or uncheck the options that you want.

http://www.vbulletin.org/forum/attac...7&d=1297118184


GlowHost.com 14 Jul 2011 01:50

Well, what most people do is test these things on their own to see what it does.

There is no CP admin tool. If you have it, you have done something wrong.

LVC 14 Jul 2011 01:55

Sorry I did not make myself clear.

If I ban somebody (suspend them) through AdminCP > Users > Ban User instead of the inline Mod tool

Will they be affected by the Easy-clean-up selected options?





Quote:

Originally Posted by GlowHost.com (Post 2220268)
Well, what most people do is test these things on their own to see what it does.

There is no CP admin tool. If you have it, you have done something wrong.


GlowHost.com 14 Jul 2011 02:01

No, you would see Spam-O-Matic options if SOM were to manipulate your users in any way.

Ban users in CP is a vBulletin function, not a function of SOM.

cpradcliff 14 Jul 2011 11:35

Quote:

Originally Posted by axelhols (Post 2219629)
You mean submit to StopForumSpam.com....

The short answer is no - only submit a confirmed SPAMMER User details - with good posting evidence (URL's and/or advert details).
Ditto for perceived hacking attempts
http://www.stopforumspam.com/forum/v...ic.php?id=2929

Thanks.
I think they should have a feature to submit a spammer to Stop ForumSpam once the pass the verification and haven't made a post.
I have a few like this and in most case they didn't verify there email.

GlowHost.com 14 Jul 2011 16:25

Your proposal leaves the system vulnerable to users reporting false positives, resulting in a less accurate SFS database.

The idea behind a RBL like this is to only submit spammers who have actually been caught spamming, not to ban users we think are probably or possibly spammers.

k0killer2 14 Jul 2011 17:40

This message keeps displaying when I attempt to install it from product manager.

Block Disabled:      (Update License Status)  
Suspended or Unlicensed Members Cannot View Code.


GlowHost.com 14 Jul 2011 18:08

Sounds like you are using windows. Try searching for your error in this thread. Its been answered several times.

k0killer2 14 Jul 2011 18:24

My apologies. Thank you.

GlowHost.com 14 Jul 2011 18:32

Glad you found it, enjoy :)

Jeff66 14 Jul 2011 19:05

Quote:

Originally Posted by GlowHost.com (Post 2220472)
Your proposal leaves the system vulnerable to users reporting false positives, resulting in a less accurate SFS database.

The idea behind a RBL like this is to only submit spammers who have actually been caught spamming, not to ban users we think are probably or possibly spammers.


Sometimes spammers are so obvious it would be foolish to wait until they've posted before banning them.

Recently I've had a lot of people register from India, Pakistan and Eastern Europe (I never have any genuine users from those places), who fill in lots of details in their user profile, claiming they're in the UK. A Google search has revealed they've recently registered for hundreds of forums using the same information.
It's just a matter of time before they start spamming all those sites.

Wouldn't it be better to get them blacklisted before they start the spamming?


I've been reporting these people to the SFS database manually, it would be nice if I could do it from within my vBulletin control panel.

axelhols 15 Jul 2011 14:58

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jeff66 (Post 2220554)
Sometimes spammers are so obvious it would be foolish to wait until they've posted before banning them.

Recently I've had a lot of people register from India, Pakistan and Eastern Europe (I never have any genuine users from those places), who fill in lots of details in their user profile, claiming they're in the UK. A Google search has revealed they've recently registered for hundreds of forums using the same information.
It's just a matter of time before they start spamming all those sites.

Wouldn't it be better to get them blacklisted before they start the spamming?


I've been reporting these people to the SFS database manually, it would be nice if I could do it from within my vBulletin control panel.

No - since this may lead to board admins listing user details for posts they just happen to disagree with or perhaps have some kind of grudge against a certain board member.

As the Internet mail filtering administrators have discovered over the years - defining and identifying SPAM is actually not that straightforward - what is SPAM to one person is legit advertising to another.
To keep things simple we just want to focus on Unsolicited Bulk Emails or Posts (UBE/UBP) - the same advert or advertiser submitting to a large number of multiple recipients. In the case of forums this will be mainly from Spambots and will reflect as multiple entries for the same username/email over a period of time.

For a collaborative Database like StopForumSpam to be meaningful they presumably thus only consider submissions with clear cut 'SPAM' evidence.

Its then up to a plugin like Spam-O-Matic to interpret and make a decision on rejecting a registration based on the information presented there.
But it would not surprise me if this plugin has to be fine tuned in the future with a scoring system perhaps similar to http://wiki.apache.org/spamassassin/SpamAssassin (for SMTP/POP mail) in order to reduce the number of potential false-positives.

lazytown 16 Jul 2011 17:22

Under "StopForumSpam: Desired Action", what exactly does the option for "log and continue with registration" do? Does it just allow them to register as a normal member and post? Or does it put them in a banned/temp group? We *really* need an option to put them in a banned/temp group if it doesn't already because of the following:

I'm starting to get an increase in false positives from stopforumspam.com. Some of these users have used the 'contact us' to report such false positives. Some of them may be members that other forums have banned and reported for whatever reason even though they weren't actually spammers. However, because they are not registered in a banned/temp account, I cannot reply to them or activate their account. Sending them a personal email would be far too time consuming. Advice?

Thanks!

Jeff66 16 Jul 2011 17:42

Quote:

Originally Posted by axelhols (Post 2220839)
No - since this may lead to board admins listing user details for posts they just happen to disagree with or perhaps have some kind of grudge against a certain board member.

Board admins can do that anyway, the current system won't stop that from happening.


The Stop Forum Spam database doesn't require a url to prove that spam has been posted. It would be pointless if they did as it would be deleted anyway.

Please remove your ads in my forum footer, Glowhost!
by victorvu
17 Jul 2011 00:59

Hi glowhost:

Thank you for the spammer software, but do not stick your ads in my footer forum, because it is not very nice for not asking me first. I thought your soft is preventing spammer, but you are the first to spam me on my forum. I can give you a space when I am completely design my website. I have no issue with that. For now, please remove it.

I am very upset!

Thank you.

Victor

Here is the link:
http://kieumau.net/forum/forum.php


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