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Old 27 Feb 2010, 13:35
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Will try this now thanks
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Old 27 Feb 2010, 17:01
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Originally Posted by Andy View Post
One reason vB4 is slower than vb3 is the use of shading and rounded corners. Add this to the bottom of the additional.css template and your forum will speed up considerably.

* { -moz-box-shadow: none !important; }
* { -webkit-box-shadow: none !important; }

* { -moz-border-radius: 0px !important; }
* { -webkit-border-radius: 0px !important; }
Are you serious? Are you telling me that rounded corners are going to slow website loading to a crawl?

Please refer to this.

With firebug, it's saying that to load the main page I need 91 HTTP requests, taking 22 seconds, and is 860KB to download with nothing cached. The vbulletin default theme is 64 requests and 280 KB. Mine is 32 requests 322KB. That's way too many requests and way too much to download.

YSlow tells a similar tale also,

Grade of E, I'm surprised it's not F.

You have Zero Caching on almost all of your files. Every time someone loads the page they need to request the files again. That's wasteful.

Before you start pointing fingers at vbulletin you need to do some serious optimization.
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Old 27 Feb 2010, 18:00
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All I can say is that I made this simple change to my site and the difference in how fast it loads now is night and day. It's like moving it to a lighting fast server.
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Old 27 Feb 2010, 18:05
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I have tried it and it messed up my style lol.
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Old 27 Feb 2010, 18:35
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Originally Posted by ericgtr View Post
All I can say is that I made this simple change to my site and the difference in how fast it loads now is night and day. It's like moving it to a lighting fast server.
I'd like to see some real benchmarks and tests to back this up. This can't affect the speed at which the page downloads, however it can affect how fast it renders in the browser. Rendering is something the user's computer and browser can be at fault for.
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Old 27 Feb 2010, 18:41
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vB4 css is forcing rounded corners yes! Removing them is a good idea.
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Old 27 Feb 2010, 19:47
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This simple piece of advice should be made a sticky.
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Old 27 Feb 2010, 19:52
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Im making an article on speeding up vBulletin 4 i'll be sure to list this and give him credit.
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Old 27 Feb 2010, 19:59
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Originally Posted by ChopSuey View Post
vB4 css is forcing rounded corners yes! Removing them is a good idea.
No it doesn't have any effect on the speed at which vb4 operates.
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Old 28 Feb 2010, 13:07
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Originally Posted by compwhizii View Post
No it doesn't have any effect on the speed at which vb4 operates.
That is simply untrue.
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Old 28 Feb 2010, 13:15
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http://www.vbulletin.org/forum/showthread.php?t=237025

Check my article.
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Old 28 Feb 2010, 14:26
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Originally Posted by ericgtr View Post
That is simply untrue.
You have no idea what you're talking about. CSS is client side, not server side.
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Old 28 Feb 2010, 14:55
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Originally Posted by compwhizii View Post
You have no idea what you're talking about. CSS is client side, not server side.
Where did I ever make that claim?

Here's the bottom line, before applying this simple little CSS change a board can take 5 seconds to load, after applying it, the board can load in 1 or 2 seconds, that's what matters to the end user.
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Old 28 Feb 2010, 16:00
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Originally Posted by ericgtr View Post
Where did I ever make that claim?

Here's the bottom line, before applying this simple little CSS change a board can take 5 seconds to load, after applying it, the board can load in 1 or 2 seconds, that's what matters to the end user.
Where is this happening? What browsers and OS?
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Old 28 Feb 2010, 16:34
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Originally Posted by compwhizii View Post
Where is this happening? What browsers and OS?
It's happening because of the rounded corners and shadows, as was implied on the first page of this thread. This is not the only thread on this issue with the new VB it's all over the place at the main site as well.
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