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vB Version: 3.5.4 Rating: (3 votes - 3.67 average) Installs: 47
Released: 05 Sep 2006 Last Update: Never Downloads: 304
Not Supported DB Changes Uses Plugins Template Edits Additional Files Is in Beta Stage  

BEFORE YOU READ FURTHER, DO NOT INSTALL THIS MODIFICATION IN ITS PRESENT STATE. READ THE RELEVANT SECTIONS OF THIS POST FIRST IF YOU WISH TO INSTALL VBMS. I AM NOT OFFICIALLY SUPPORTING THIS MODIFICATION.

Note: For now, this thread will serve for all support questions. Obviously, the thread is going to get very long, very soon, and quickly lose any manageability. I hope to have a Premum Modification forum set up for vBMS, depending on whether the administration here supports it.

The vBulletin Mail System is now a free modification, instead of $40 to $48 (depending on the license). All features of the developer license (notes, etc.) are public as well. These files will be released shortly; they are not available yet.

For product information: http://www.webdesignforums.net/vbms/ .

What's attached to this thread?

The latest development version of vBMS, designed for 3.5 (incompatible with 3.0 in many ways, incompatible with 3.6 in a handful of ways). It is not to be installed in a live environment under any conditions.

What does this mean?

The forum at http://www.webdesignforums.net/vbms/forum/ will no longer serve as a support forum. If you have questions, you should do one of two things:
  • Post in this thread ONLY. All technical, historical, and nearly all other threads should be posted here. In all likelyhood, I will not response to technical questions in this thread, and I will not respond to such requests via private messages or other means. By posting in this thread, tens of thousands of other users can help you in addition to me (provided they don't get there first and I have the time).
  • If the question is personal for me only--no development questions--then send me a private message. Send the private message only through my site (http://www.webdesignforums.net/), not this site, so I can easily look up your customer history. Effectively, this involves billing only, or other licensing questions.
What about those who purchased the product?

When you bought vBMS, you were paying for the stable 3.0 release that has been around for over a year, and a 2.3.x release that has been around for much longer (since 2003). You still have access to those products (they will be released in the new forum). However, your license has been inherited to a standard open-source license: you may now install vBMS on as many domains and forums as you like, as well as freely distribute it.

Your input has also allowed a stable 3.5 version to be very close to completion. The expertise of the tens of thousands of coders who are now exposed to vBMS--which includes the developers of vBulletin themselves--will further improve the product to create a stable and full-featured product for vBulletin 3.5, 3.6, and beyond.

If your intention was to buy a 3.5 release, please note that it was clearly and repeatedly mentioned that a 3.5 version was only under development, not readily available, and that the version available was specifically not suitable for live use. I apologize if you thought this was different as I attempted to make it abundantly clear, including specifically telling people not to buy vBMS if they are running vBulletin 3.5 or later.

However, with this transition to open source, you will still get what you paid for, and faster: a stable 3.5/3.6 release.

Why go open-source?

To be honest, it is not fair to those who bought a vBMS license but have upgraded their installation of vBulletin to beyond 3.0. This will allow a much faster development cycle with support from many vBulletin modification developers. There are secondary reasons as well:
  • Time. vBMS is well over 16,000 lines of code. Managing a product of that scope is simply beyond the several hours free I have each week to develop the product. Also, with Jelsoft churning out the vBulletin versions, developing a product that is dependent on frequent changes is extremely difficult. That is not to say that frequent new versions of vBulletin is a bad thing; it simply makes development difficult.
  • Product scale. As mentioned above, vBMS is huge--far bigger than the majority of vBMS additions and even bigger than some of the version transitions of vBulletin itself.
  • Reverse engineering vBulletin. As a factor of the two above, I am finding it increasingly difficult to develop for vBulletin. While I applaud Jelsoft for offering a product and specifically not mangling, encrypting, or otherwise prohibiting the viewing of its source (obviously, for customers only), there is still much to be done to favor strongly to developers who build products exclusively for their product. Others who feel catoring towards developers can help Jelsoft can see my request for a "developer license" of vBulletin.
  • Fraud. As many people know, online software vendors are among the worst hit for credit card fraud, and it's extremely damaging: even if a thousand copies of a piece of software are sold, it only takes one single fraudulent order to leak the product, voiding, in all honesty, the majority of future orders. After putting a great deal of time into vBMS to see it stolen so brazenly, it demoralized me.
  • Bad experiences. I have appealed several times to the community to hire additional developers, but the developers I hand-picked did not work out on these occasions. So far, none of the experiences has sped up development time, so paid outside help has not worked out.
  • Personal reasons. I have changed jobs, taken on part-time work (I'm still poor), and even had a death in the family break up my work.
But the ultimate reason: I want vBMS to be available for all current versions of vBulletin so those who paid good money do not feel cheated.

What can and can't I do with an open-source vBMS in terms of licensing?

You can:
  • Distribute vBMS to anybody you like.
  • Modify vBMS to do whatever you like (excluding changing copyright notices), and then claim the changes as your own.
  • Remove mentions of vBMS, the "vBulletin Mail System", or other branding.
  • Develop special distributions of vBMS that you have extensively modified, and distribute those changes as a package
  • Sell any components of vBMS that you have directly created (this is allowed, but discouraged). Only the components themselves may be sold, not the entire package with your modifications included.
You cannot:
  • Advertise any of your modifications that you may be selling at vBulletin.org.
  • Use vBMS for any illegal purposes, including use vBMS on a forum without an active vBulletin license.
  • Modify vBMS to do whatever you like, and then claim the entire product as your own.
  • Remove mentions of vBMS, the "vBulletin Mail System", or other branding, and replace them with others that imply you exclusively developed the product.
  • Sell any components of vBMS that the product originally contained or others have freely developed.
  • Sell the product as a whole, including a modified product.
What technical skills do I need to understand how vBMS works?

You need the usual vBulletin skills in general. This means PHP, MySQL, HTML, and CSS. You also should have a working knowledge of XML.

You'll also need to familiarize yourself with how MIME headers in e-mails work. If you want to modify how vBMS receives and routes mail, you'll need to understand the beast that is the imap library: http://www.php.net/imap . The imap library is only used to receive messages; sending messages has no dependency on imap.

Will you help with development?

I'll offer simple assistance in whatever free time I have--and I'll only do it publicly in the new forum. I will not write extensive parts of code for you or talk to you privately about vBMS. I will enjoy answering questions about how vBMS works at a high-level, and then you can see the inner workings to see how it's actually implemented.

So can vBMS actually be installed?

The version of vBMS that has been uploaded is the latest development version. It can be installed on a test forum, but there are several critical bugs that need to be resolved. You can browse the old support forums (http://www.webdesignforums.net/vbms/) for an overview of those bugs. I have a suspicion that they are simple fixes to you, the community with experience with vBulletin.

What is the first goal of those movement to open-source?

I wish to have a stable version of vBMS with little to no known bugs available for vBulletin 3.5 and 3.6 as soon as possible to appease past and present customers. Feature additions should come later; compatibility and bug fixes should be the utmost priority. When the stable version for 3.5 and 3.6 is available, then new features can be added. At the old forums, there is a list of feature requests, many of which have been addressed.

What will be my role in this?

As a user experienced with vBulletin development, both you and others will benefit from a stable 3.5/3.6 version of vBMS. That should be the priority. Feature additions, visual tweaks, etc. come later. Compatibility and just making it work completely with the features already present is the most important.

What remains to be done for a transition to open-source?

The version of vBMS attached to this thread is the latest one to which customers had access. It is still littered with copyright information and warnings about piracy. While the copyright information is still valid and will perpetually be valid, you can obviously ignore the piracy warnings. A proper version will be uploaded within several days that is fully suitable for open-source use.

Remember, this means that the piracy warning is no longer applicable, but the copyright information is applicable and must never, under any circumstances, be removed.

Any last thoughts?

As with any modification, back up your site files, but more importantly, your database, before proceeding. vBMS makes a significant number of alterations and new tables.

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  #136  
Old 12 Nov 2006, 01:12
Lionel Lionel is offline
 
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Some great news.
the main reason why the cron was not running in the cron folder is because

require_once( "./includes/vbms_preinit.php");
should have been

require_once(DIR . "/includes/vbms_preinit.php");
This is my log now
Warning 11-11-06 09:10 PM Running mail check despite there being 15 seconds minimum until next scheduled run
Debug 11-11-06 09:10 PM Connecting to mail server
Debug 11-11-06 09:10 PM Retrieving message count...
Information 11-11-06 09:10 PM There are 0 messages on the POP3 server that need to be downloaded
Debug 11-11-06 09:10 PM Closing connection
Information 11-11-06 09:10 PM vBMS mail checking completed
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  #137  
Old 12 Nov 2006, 01:23
Lionel Lionel is offline
 
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Worth checking also. Since I am forcing TLS, I had to change in the checkmail_functions
$vulletin->options['vbms_notls']
to
$vulletin->options['vbms_forcenotls']
as the correct options was 'vbms_forcenotls'. I am not sure if I picked that from comparing 3.07, but somehow this is what it was in vbulletin options.
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  #138  
Old 12 Nov 2006, 01:27
Lionel Lionel is offline
 
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and the very simple query to take care of phrase type, replacing TP_ with your prefix:

INSERT INTO `TP_phrasetype` VALUES ('vbms', 'vBulletin Mail System (vBMS)', 3, 'wdf_vbms', 0);
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  #139  
Old 12 Nov 2006, 01:48
Lionel Lionel is offline
 
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BTW I solved the previous mystery of failed image and successful cron: I forgot I had hardcoded the login values :-)
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  #140  
Old 12 Nov 2006, 01:52
Lionel Lionel is offline
 
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I wonder what is the name of the 1x1 successful gif? Now that it is successfull i get a broken image
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  #141  
Old 12 Nov 2006, 02:01
Lionel Lionel is offline
 
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here is a copy of my working cron (in the cron folder)
Attached Files
File Type: php vbms_checkmail.php (28.3 KB, 11 views)
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  #142  
Old 12 Nov 2006, 03:54
Lionel Lionel is offline
 
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everything is just fine. The problem that I am now facing, the cron is not deleting the mail from server after retrieving it, therefore the same email is retrieved over and over.
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  #143  
Old 12 Nov 2006, 04:10
Lionel Lionel is offline
 
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I just found out that setting was also missing

vbms_expunge
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  #144  
Old 12 Nov 2006, 04:58
Lionel Lionel is offline
 
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perfect!!!

99% working on vb 3.60

only the 'empty folder delete' bug left to squash and the faq (which is nothing)

I am not clear which cron is doing the job, the one at root or the one at the cron folder, and I don't care to find out as the job is being done as designed by filburt.

I did the whole thing manually.

If I can get a couple of you guys to signup at my site and beat it up so I am 100% sure it works, then I will release step by step instructions of what I did plus my sql and modified files plus a couple templates I changed to accomodate the php changes. Hopefully for the rest of you, someone else will take over and pack it into a product (personally I don't see the need to do so as this is independent from any vb files)

Anyway, a big thank you to filburt for releasing this. It will be a welcome addition to my site.

just send me a PM for a link

P.S. I will hold from installing any other hacks for the next two days, as it will be easier for me to retrieve the last queries from the database.

There is also a minor bug in the groups permissions. For some reasons you must save it twice for the changes to take effect.

Last edited by Lionel; 12 Nov 2006 at 05:09.
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  #145  
Old 12 Nov 2006, 05:29
filburt1 filburt1 is offline
 
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Very happy to see that you were able to turn it into a stable product.

The 1x1 GIF should be a clear GIF in your forums' root folder, IIRC.

vbms_expunge controls whether mail is deleted or not once downloaded, which would explain your duplicates.
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Old 12 Nov 2006, 05:37
Lionel Lionel is offline
 
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I am now adding the various who's online locations as plugins
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Old 13 Nov 2006, 06:23
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Lionel, thanks for all the help
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  #148  
Old 13 Nov 2006, 16:57
Lionel Lionel is offline
 
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Please don't PM me and offer me money to install for you. Hack belongs to filburt. If you want it badly, register at my site and test it out so I am sure it's bug free, then I will post instructions for all.
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Old 13 Nov 2006, 17:00
filburt1 filburt1 is offline
 
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Moreover, it's against the licensing terms I clearly put forth in the first post for him to sell you the product. Do not request it from him for pay.

If you want it so badly, offer to test it and help him bundle it into an installable package so the whole community can view it.
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  #150  
Old 13 Nov 2006, 18:09
Killsparer Killsparer is offline
 
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Originally Posted by Lionel View Post
Please don't PM me and offer me money to install for you. Hack belongs to filburt. If you want it badly, register at my site and test it out so I am sure it's bug free, then I will post instructions for all.
Thanks for finishing the addon!

So what is the URL of your site? I really would like to take a look.
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