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vBnoindex - Auto hide thin / shallow content from Google and avoid the Panda penalty!
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Increase SEO, traffic, time on site and page views per visit!

This mod will add the meta noindex tag to threads with a word count equal or below the setting you specify.

The Theory:

If you pay any attention to Google these days you will have heard of the 'Panda' updates that were let lose at the start of 2011. In leymans terms Google believes it has come up with a better way to detect spam or content farms (this seems to include big forums with lots of content). Google has automated the detection process and every 4 weeks or so they run the system, the web is crawled and the winners get higher traffic and the losers lose upto 80% or theirs.

Although it is not known exactly how to avoid 'Panda' there are some things that most top SEO's are starting to say. The main two things seem to be thin or shallow content and low user engagement, so poor page views per visit or poor time spent per visit. The two actually come hand in hand, fix one and you fix the other.

Most vBulletin forums have tons of content, pages and pages of threads, some long, some thin. Now although not all thin pages are bad, most dont hold a user for more than a few seconds, most do not encourage a user to register or reply, they are mostly low value. If you have a high ratio of these pages, compared to quality, lengthy, high engagement pages then you will eventually be hit by panda and lose upto 80% of your traffic. So 500 thin introduction type threads can cause your 50 10,000 word PHD articles to tank in the rankings, for example.

The MOD:

This MOD lets you set a minimum thread word count, the noindex meta tag will then be placed into any thread having this many words or below, thus stopping Google from crawling the page. This will show google that all your content is lengthy and any visits from Google search to the lengthy pages still being crawled and indexed with have high engagement metrics, making you more appealing to Google's algorithm further.

It's a crude way of doing things, but the only other option to large forum owners is to rewrite 1,000's of threads or manually inspect them and block accordingly. You'd be doing so for years to come.

The Install:

1- Import the package.
2- Set min word count in options>thread display options (showthread)

What word count setting do I use?

This depends on the forum. For example I have a 20k thread forum, that had lost 80% of it's traffic overnight, since june. I started at 50 words, then 100, now upto 200 to start seeing a recovery. So i hide all threads with 200 words or less from Google. All this means is by setting this at 200 i hide enough content to swing the balance, ie; the bad now doesn't outweigh the good.

If you have 1000 threads, and just 5 are below say 1000 words, you will probably never be hit by Panda anyway, because your content is long and engages users for many minutes.

Start low and increase the setting until you see you traffic increase or recover, it sounds insane to block content to increase traffic but it is about hiding the bad that is dragging the good down. It is no longer ok to let Google decide what to rank and what to sink, they want YOU to put your best stuff in the shop windows and lock the rest in the basement, hidden from customers.

Why is this MOD for owners not hit by Panda also?


By hiding your thin content, people will not be able to find it via Google search, this means they will only find your long in depth pages when coming from Google. So yes, you may lose 5% of your visits short term (Google wont be sending much to these pages anyway) but long term your time on site and pages per visit will increase and you longer, more popular threads and thus site overall will be rewarded.

I think ive explained things as best I can. There is a linkback in the package, this MOD could save your site from extinction so its a big deal and I gotta pay the bills. If you must remove it by whatever means then go ahead but I wont be offering any support if you do.

Based on the nature of playing with Googles algorithm I will say I make no guarantees and this is at your own risk, if you are not well versed on SEO then I would avoid using this MOD or get the advice of a experienced friend.

-Hybrid

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Old 23 Apr 2012, 18:41
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Originally Posted by raymondblog View Post
After spending a lot of hours researching about Panda, I am one of the believer that thin and unuseful pages should be noindex.

Installed it a few days ago and still monitoring the situation.

Glad you agree and find this useful.

I'm been playing with it a while and I've nearly got my Pandalized size back to normal but I am running the setting at 350 words.
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Old 24 Apr 2012, 02:27
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Would love to hear of any other sites whom installed this and can share the results. My analytics are very good so not sure if this would help very much. Bounce Rate is only .84% with over 21 minutes per visit.
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Old 24 Apr 2012, 03:50
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That is a very low bounce rate with visitors spending a lot of time on your website.
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Old 17 May 2012, 11:38
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Originally Posted by raymondblog View Post
That is a very low bounce rate with visitors spending a lot of time on your website.
Did this hack wirk for you? Would love to get my page rank higher.
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Old 21 Jun 2012, 22:21
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Originally Posted by CaneInsider View Post
Did this hack wirk for you? Would love to get my page rank higher.
This mod does not effect pagerank.
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Old 21 Jun 2012, 23:41
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It would be nice to get some stats from websites that tried this.
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Old 13 Jul 2012, 10:13
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Updated to 1.1.0

Just a minor bug fix that affected a few users.
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Old 23 Oct 2012, 20:15
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Originally Posted by Alfa1 View Post
It would be nice to get some stats from websites that tried this.
People are normally reluctant to share specific traffic numbers...
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Old 24 Oct 2012, 12:09
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Why does this mod not count content in spoilers/quotes etc? Are these bad for seo?

We have a some pages where content is inside quote/code/spoilers, but these are still content google can see, but the mod adds noindex :/
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Old 24 Oct 2012, 12:25
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I was not aware of the issue, thanks i will look into fixing it.

As a side note this probably affects 1% of forum pages.
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Old 25 Oct 2012, 13:15
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Is there any way to test this to see if it is functioning?
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Old 25 Oct 2012, 16:00
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Sure, install it and goto a thread and look for the noindex tag.
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Old 16 Jan 2013, 16:52
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For anyone that has been using this for a while I'd like to see some long term results.
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Old 04 Mar 2013, 21:04
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Update 1.2.0

Fix small bug where word count was wrongly calculated.
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Old 05 Mar 2013, 22:39
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Originally Posted by Manoel Júnior View Post
Unninstal!

After I installed this mod, 40% fell into my SEO.
Can you please be more specif? I really do not understand what you exactly you are saying. What exactly fell by 40%?

Also, how can you be sure it was this mod that did it? Can you post a screenshot of your Google analytics graphs showing when you installed?

How long after you installed did you see this change?

Not trying to give you the third degree. I am just trying to learn about this. This seems like it would be great for one of my forums where there is often tons of small talk which is worthless. I think weeding this stuff out would be a good thing.

I would also love to hear from someone that has had a positive and showable improvement from this.. What about it op.. Do you have any stats or data to show?

Thanks much,
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