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vB Version: 4.0.6 Rating: (7 votes - 4.29 average) Installs: 73
Released: 18 Aug 2010 Last Update: 22 Aug 2010 Downloads: 388
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I made this mod after being requested at my forum by a user and thorught to share it here as well in case other users will find a use for it as well

http://www.forumservices.eu/showthre...-hack-from-Ipb

ANyway this hack will allow you to show the first post to guests and hide the rest. You can enable and disable from the Acp where you can add the message that you want to be displayed to guests instead of the post. You can also choose forums to be excluded from the hide post limit.

The mod is not supported.

A new version that shouldn''t afefct spiders can be downloaded at my forum. Support for the mod is also provided there.

http://www.forumservices.eu/vb/showt...irst-Post-Only

The mod is free. However registration is required to download it.


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Old 31 Aug 2010, 18:45
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Originally Posted by GeorgeB85 View Post
If being selfish, is simply asking for you to upload the newly updated part of this mod here so that members who enjoy it can download it, and update the mod, then I am guilty as charged.

You are free to do what you want, but not wanting to upload the mod here which I am sure takes less than a minute to do, and require people to register to your site in order to download, then that is being selfish.

However, I am done with it. You obviously could care less about doing something nice and simple, so have a nice day.

If a mod wants to delete this, feel free too.

BYE.
Talking about being selfish, if you check my post history here you will see that from 34 mods, I uploaded only one to my forum. And 90% of my posts are in the support forums helping other users with their issues. That is how selfish I am.

On the other hand, if we check your post history, it is the other way around. 90% of your posts are how I can do this, that or how can I get this and that. You want everything handed to you ready so you don''t have to do anything yourslef. And when it comes that you need to register somewhere to get something for YOURSELF, then you start to complain and moan. So who is selfish now?

Anyway, bye and have a nice day yourself too.
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Old 31 Aug 2010, 19:42
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Originally Posted by borbole View Post
Talking about being selfish, if you check my post history here you will see that from 34 mods, I uploaded only one to my forum. And 90% of my posts are in the support forums helping other users with their issues. That is how selfish I am.

On the other hand, if we check your post history, it is the other way around. 90% of your posts are how I can do this, that or how can I get this and that. You want everything handed to you ready so you don''t have to do anything yourslef. And when it comes that you need to register somewhere to get something for YOURSELF, then you start to complain and moan. So who is selfish now?

Anyway, bye and have a nice day yourself too.
That is because I didn't create none of those mods. So obviously if I have an issue, or looking for an option that the mod is supposed to have, and I cannot find it any where, or I upload the files, and get an error, then obviously I would ask for help. 8 times out of 10 the developer/creator of the mod has experienced the issue, or someone else has and told the creator about the issue and how they fixed it/

Asking questions is the only way to find anything out. Plus, a lot of it, I figure out on my own, and after doing all the resources, I cannot get a solution, then I ask for help.

You have had me and atleast 1 other member in this forum ask you to kindly upload it to vb.org so we can download and use the new update part of the mod, and you simply refused and basically said you don't feel like doing it twice. That is being selfish.

If I created a mod and put it on here, then came up with a update, and said go to xyz.com to download the update, you would say the same thing we all did...what is the point on registering at any site to download 1 file, and then never go back to it again?

You can call me selfish all you like, but I am not the one who created a mod, then came up with an update, put it on my site, and then flat out tell people, either download it from my site now, or be stuck with a mod that works great against non registered members trying to view content, but sucks when it comes to spiders/crawlers that help get your site on search engines. That is selfish.
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Old 31 Aug 2010, 20:26
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Originally Posted by GeorgeB85 View Post
That is because I didn't create none of those mods. So obviously if I have an issue, or looking for an option that the mod is supposed to have, and I cannot find it any where, or I upload the files, and get an error, then obviously I would ask for help. 8 times out of 10 the developer/creator of the mod has experienced the issue, or someone else has and told the creator about the issue and how they fixed it/

Asking questions is the only way to find anything out. Plus, a lot of it, I figure out on my own, and after doing all the resources, I cannot get a solution, then I ask for help.

You have had me and atleast 1 other member in this forum ask you to kindly upload it to vb.org so we can download and use the new update part of the mod, and you simply refused and basically said you don't feel like doing it twice. That is being selfish.

If I created a mod and put it on here, then came up with a update, and said go to xyz.com to download the update, you would say the same thing we all did...what is the point on registering at any site to download 1 file, and then never go back to it again?

You can call me selfish all you like, but I am not the one who created a mod, then came up with an update, put it on my site, and then flat out tell people, either download it from my site now, or be stuck with a mod that works great against non registered members trying to view content, but sucks when it comes to spiders/crawlers that help get your site on search engines. That is selfish.

I thought you were done with this thread

That ain''t selfish at all. I created that mod originally for someone who requested it at my forum and then I uploaded it here as well to share it with everyone else. Now a new version has been released at my forum. So whomever wants to download it, all it takes is a minute to register. If you don''t want to, then don''t. No one is forcing no one to register no where. But if you want that mod then you must register to download it.

You can''t expect me to upload it here as well because you can''t take one minute to do something for yourself. Sorry to say this but you sound like a spoiled brat that wants everything handied over, without having to do nothing at all. And when they don''t get it their way, then they begin to whine, complain and moan. If that ain''t selfish, then I don''t know what is.

P.s. If you see in other mods, most coders do that as well when they release another version with more features. They place it for download at their own forums, some paid and some free.
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Old 01 Sep 2010, 03:55
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Originally Posted by borbole View Post
I thought you were done with this thread

That ain''t selfish at all. I created that mod originally for someone who requested it at my forum and then I uploaded it here as well to share it with everyone else. Now a new version has been released at my forum. So whomever wants to download it, all it takes is a minute to register. If you don''t want to, then don''t. No one is forcing no one to register no where. But if you want that mod then you must register to download it.

You can''t expect me to upload it here as well because you can''t take one minute to do something for yourself. Sorry to say this but you sound like a spoiled brat that wants everything handied over, without having to do nothing at all. And when they don''t get it their way, then they begin to whine, complain and moan. If that ain''t selfish, then I don''t know what is.

P.s. If you see in other mods, most coders do that as well when they release another version with more features. They place it for download at their own forums, some paid and some free.
Then you shouldn't offer a mod here that is not fully workable. The file that is currently listed, is one that allows both individuals who are not signed in to only view the content of the first post on each thread page, but NOT spiders. So therefore, this mod is broke.

But if you rather do that, instead of uploading a fully functioning mod, that is your choice.

To call me a spoiled brat is very childish and just shows your level of maturity. You know nothing about me except for what type of replies I put on a forum. I work very hard every day of the week to support my family. Some hard labor and some not.

I work for everything that I get.

As I mentioned before, I DON'T create these mods, so I only know how they work and function based on what the creators of the mod tell members how it is supposed to work. When I ask them for help or "how do you do this" type of questions, it is mainly sometimes because I get an error message that I have no clue of what it means, or what is causing it to show up.

Or I ask a question if the mod is supposed to do something specific and it doesn't.

To me, you making people register at your forums to download your mod is just an excuse to get members to join, but I rather have members join who will participate rather than members who only join to be smoochers and never participate.

But it is your choice, and I will respect it. Like I said, you do make some good/decent mods, and this was one of them, but since your not willing to upload a fully workable version, then I guess some of us never will know.

Take care.
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Old 01 Sep 2010, 04:12
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<sigh>

Developers of Mods are owners of the respective mods and have certain rights;
As far as I can see, the original mod was revised to exclude spiders;
and the Developer has made it very clear to get the revised mod from his board;

From a personal point view, if I want the revised mod, I would have to register in order to download the revised mod; I had no problems with the registration; I wish to add that I registered at another 2 boards in order to download something but alas after I registered I found that there were certain conditions that I had to fulfill.

Developers are creating mods for free here (at least not all wants to be compensated in one way or another); If I wanted the revised mod but do not want to get it from his/her board, I would PM the developer, stating valid reasons and request nicely whether he/she would be kind enough to send it to me
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Old 01 Sep 2010, 20:45
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Originally Posted by GeorgeB85 View Post
Then you shouldn't offer a mod here that is not fully workable. The file that is currently listed, is one that allows both individuals who are not signed in to only view the content of the first post on each thread page, but NOT spiders. So therefore, this mod is broke.

But if you rather do that, instead of uploading a fully functioning mod, that is your choice.

To call me a spoiled brat is very childish and just shows your level of maturity. You know nothing about me except for what type of replies I put on a forum. I work very hard every day of the week to support my family. Some hard labor and some not.

I work for everything that I get.

As I mentioned before, I DON'T create these mods, so I only know how they work and function based on what the creators of the mod tell members how it is supposed to work. When I ask them for help or "how do you do this" type of questions, it is mainly sometimes because I get an error message that I have no clue of what it means, or what is causing it to show up.

Or I ask a question if the mod is supposed to do something specific and it doesn't.

To me, you making people register at your forums to download your mod is just an excuse to get members to join, but I rather have members join who will participate rather than members who only join to be smoochers and never participate.

But it is your choice, and I will respect it. Like I said, you do make some good/decent mods, and this was one of them, but since your not willing to upload a fully workable version, then I guess some of us never will know.

Take care.
The mod works fine. It is not broke at all. Anyway, I am sorry if I offended you with that spoiled brat comment, but you sounded very much like that. Look at how you asked me to upload the second version of my mod here:

How about making the new version available here, for members who are not on your forum?
Like I owe it to you or something. No please, no nothing. If you can''t or don''t want to register at my forum to get it, then you should have posted in a different way, asking me politely and I would have uploaded it here. But not like that.

And I work as well and sometimes 2 jobs to support my family. And yet, I still find the time to help others around here as much as I can. SO you are not the only one that works

Take care as well.

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<sigh>

Developers of Mods are owners of the respective mods and have certain rights;
As far as I can see, the original mod was revised to exclude spiders;
and the Developer has made it very clear to get the revised mod from his board;

From a personal point view, if I want the revised mod, I would have to register in order to download the revised mod; I had no problems with the registration; I wish to add that I registered at another 2 boards in order to download something but alas after I registered I found that there were certain conditions that I had to fulfill.

Developers are creating mods for free here (at least not all wants to be compensated in one way or another); If I wanted the revised mod but do not want to get it from his/her board, I would PM the developer, stating valid reasons and request nicely whether he/she would be kind enough to send it to me
Exactly. But as you saw it yourself the asking was not made kindly, far from it.
Thank you for the understanding btw
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Old 06 Sep 2010, 16:04
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Borbole:

I was making the comment for all members who might like to download the mod and use it on their forum in a full working version. If you have one version here, and the other version located solely on your forum alone, and that one works slighty better than the one here, that that is NOT a fully working mod.

However, view it however you wish. I was just getting a point across. I learn more and more each day that goes by when it comes to technical stuff. Some I am still learning, and others I have mastered for years now.

It is your mod and you are welcome to do with it what you wish. I simply won't register at a forum that I may or may not ever use again. All together, my information is probably on well over 50+ forums for a variety of things, and the sad part is, I don't even visit but just a slight few. That is all our point.

I have used and still use some of your other mods since they do work all together.

Whenever you decide if at all to upload it here, then I will use this one as well, since it was quite useful, and helped to avoid "lurkers" not turning into members.
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Old 06 Sep 2010, 22:14
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Originally Posted by GeorgeB85 View Post
Borbole:

I was making the comment for all members who might like to download the mod and use it on their forum in a full working version. If you have one version here, and the other version located solely on your forum alone, and that one works slighty better than the one here, that that is NOT a fully working mod.

However, view it however you wish. I was just getting a point across. I learn more and more each day that goes by when it comes to technical stuff. Some I am still learning, and others I have mastered for years now.

It is your mod and you are welcome to do with it what you wish. I simply won't register at a forum that I may or may not ever use again. All together, my information is probably on well over 50+ forums for a variety of things, and the sad part is, I don't even visit but just a slight few. That is all our point.

I have used and still use some of your other mods since they do work all together.

Whenever you decide if at all to upload it here, then I will use this one as well, since it was quite useful, and helped to avoid "lurkers" not turning into members.

So now you are users representative? You should speak for yourself and let the other users speak for their own selves.

Anyway, this discussion is getting a bit annoying, no offence meant. The thing is very simple, if you want to download the mod, you know where to do so. If you don''t then don''t. What can I say? But let us not discuss about this anymore.
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Old 06 Sep 2010, 23:13
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So now you are users representative? You should speak for yourself and let the other users speak for their own selves.

They did, and you were rude to them as well.
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Old 06 Sep 2010, 23:57
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and now for something different..., about the mod

I have always been led to believe that if Google indexes your site and adds the posts to their search, if a person clicks on a link in a Google search and get a "You can't see this" on your site then eventually Google will find out and black ban your site...I have heard this happening many times.

I use to use a "Guest first post only mod" on my 3.8 site without spider access and it hurt my Google ranking something chronic. Allowing spiders without allowing the post to be seen by a guest via a search engine link has been discussed many times at VBSEO and here on vb and every time it has resulted in "Don't Do It".

So can you advise why it would be different with this mod...thanks
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Old 07 Sep 2010, 00:27
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Hey bro, can the mod be changed to allow the first x number of posts to be seen versus justt he first one? I have not downloaded the mod yet, but would be willing to go to your site to do so if it can be set to allow another number of posts to show.

Personally, I don't have an issue going to your site, but if an update is released to a mod here, I get an email about it so I can grab the latest version. Not to beat a dead horse, but that is why I prefer to get mods here, but am not against getting them elsewhere as I have done so in the past many times.

Thanks for the time taken creating this mod. I am looking forward to implementing it on our boards.
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Old 07 Sep 2010, 12:56
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Originally Posted by GeorgeB85 View Post
They did, and you were rude to them as well.
Don''t lie now. You were the very first one to ask. And after you ,only another user asked about this as well and I was not rude. I simply told him that I wouldn''t upload it here. What is rude about that? Or when doesn''t care to your needs pronto then that is rude. Well, we got different definition about that.

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and now for something different..., about the mod

I have always been led to believe that if Google indexes your site and adds the posts to their search, if a person clicks on a link in a Google search and get a "You can't see this" on your site then eventually Google will find out and black ban your site...I have heard this happening many times.

I use to use a "Guest first post only mod" on my 3.8 site without spider access and it hurt my Google ranking something chronic. Allowing spiders without allowing the post to be seen by a guest via a search engine link has been discussed many times at VBSEO and here on vb and every time it has resulted in "Don't Do It".

So can you advise why it would be different with this mod...thanks
That is a first I hear about google ban for such a thing. I am using this mod in several forums of my clients who use google adsense and none of them until now has been banned from google adsense.

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Hey bro, can the mod be changed to allow the first x number of posts to be seen versus justt he first one? I have not downloaded the mod yet, but would be willing to go to your site to do so if it can be set to allow another number of posts to show.

Personally, I don't have an issue going to your site, but if an update is released to a mod here, I get an email about it so I can grab the latest version. Not to beat a dead horse, but that is why I prefer to get mods here, but am not against getting them elsewhere as I have done so in the past many times.

Thanks for the time taken creating this mod. I am looking forward to implementing it on our boards.
The thing is that atm I am a little busy and don''t have much free time. But later on when I will have some more free time, I will look into this

In the meantime find this part at the mod file:


Block Disabled:      (Update License Status)  
Suspended or Unlicensed Members Cannot View Code.


And change it to:


Block Disabled:      (Update License Status)  
Suspended or Unlicensed Members Cannot View Code.


Replace 2 with whatever number you want. That number represents the number of first posts that will be shown to guests and hide the rest of them.
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Old 07 Sep 2010, 20:52
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bah just change your user agent to
Mozilla/5.0 (compatible; Googlebot/2.1; +http://www.google.com/bot.html)
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Old 10 Sep 2010, 16:30
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I hate to be the barer of bad news but what Wilfred1 said is completely correct- this is the definition of "cloaking" - that is sharing different info with google then you do with a regular visitor and it is 100% against Google's most sacred rule. If someone reports your site YOU WILL GET BANNED FROM GOOGLE- and you may never get back on, if you do it will take at least 1 year. There is no appeals process, there is no debate- when Google confirms cloaking you are removed... period... the end.., Honestly everyone would be using this if that wasn't the case. Imagine if you had to register on every site you ever found in google before seeing the info you wanted.

Ask a "SEO Expert" if you don't believe me but this is common knowledge on the 'net.
http://www.google.com/support/webmas...y?answer=66355
http://www.google.com/support/webmas...n&answer=35769

If anyone cares about Google I strongly urge them to read the links above, search for "Google Anti-Cloaking Policy" and stop using the updated version of this mod immediately. You can not show different content to googlebot then you do any other visitor.
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So... I can use the 'Download now' version at the bottom of the first post.

but the 'updated one' that I'd have to join his site to download would get me in trouble with Google?
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