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Old 23 Aug 2019, 01:02
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Consider me very interested in this as well. A modern editor for vb4 would be a really nice thing to have.
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Old 23 Aug 2019, 03:27
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Consider me very interested in this as well. A modern editor for vb4 would be a really nice thing to have.
does not appear he's been around in the last couple of months... hopefully they are stealth reading this thread
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Old 24 Aug 2019, 19:53
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We can still hope for Dave to complete his search operation successfully.
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Old 24 Aug 2019, 19:55
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From the brief look I've given it I can't imagine anyone coding this and releasing it free. The amount of work involved is bordering on astronomical.
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Old 24 Aug 2019, 20:03
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maybe CKEditor 4 can be better adapted? it is still supported until 2023.
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Old 24 Aug 2019, 20:28
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Maybe this will make it clear on why it's so hard and time consuming. The first issue is that newer versions are not backwards compatible with any of the existing vBulletin and BBCode plugins. All plugins that provide custom implementations into the editor will break and there's nothing that can be done about it aside from porting their CKEditor implementation to the new version. There is no global fix for that. Additionally you'd be required to overwrite existing vBulletin files but since there are no updates anymore that is probably not a big deal.

We basically have 2 options:
1. Editor that is not connected to vBulletin's options and internal code, no attachment manager, no image uploader, etc. Only used to submit simple posts with just text. Probably a few days of work.

2. Editor that implements vBulletin's BBCode to provide support for permission manager, attachment manager and image uploader, etc. Along with that we'd have to make sure that implementations from old plugins need to be rejected since it could break the editor. Probably several weeks of work.

Since no one in their right mind will work on it non-stop and putting a hold on their actual job that gives them money, it will probably take months. Then what will the payoff be? Since vBulletin is not as popular as it used to be it will probably be a couple users saying thank you and the rest leeching off the download and never seeing them again, as expected.

Could it be made into a premium plugin? Probably, but personally I wouldn't do that.
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Old 24 Aug 2019, 20:41
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From another post you had written that you already finished Variant 1. The question is how long does your search campaign take and when do you have time to search for variant 1 in your security file?

Maybe someone else can take care of variant 2.
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Old 24 Aug 2019, 21:14
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I'd rather wait for an update of the user CodeStache before I waste any time on it since they claimed their version will support all features.

https://vbulletin.org/forum/showpost...32&postcount=9
https://vbulletin.org/forum/showpost...5&postcount=11

If they don't release it or provide an update on their progress within the next 1-2 months then I'll find my non-completed version of it and post it in this thread.
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Old 24 Aug 2019, 21:40
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I would not wait 1 months more. CodeStache registered on June 11 and was back online just 8 days later. He wrote in late June it will probably be ready, but now we have the end of August and no sign of life from him.

Maybe you have the opportunity to find out more about it through his email. Enter the mail at google. Maybe you will find his homepage. or contact him about it.
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Old 26 Aug 2019, 10:08
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I would not wait 1 months more. CodeStache registered on June 11 and was back online just 8 days later. He wrote in late June it will probably be ready, but now we have the end of August and no sign of life from him.

Maybe you have the opportunity to find out more about it through his email. Enter the mail at google. Maybe you will find his homepage. or contact him about it.
Da gebe ich Dir absolut Recht Schade, das niemand hier das Wissen hat, den CKEditor entsprechend anzupassen. Derjenige soll es ja auch nicht umsonst tun Sehr sehr schade das ganze
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Old 26 Aug 2019, 13:07
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Da gebe ich Dir absolut Recht Schade, das niemand hier das Wissen hat, den CKEditor entsprechend anzupassen. Derjenige soll es ja auch nicht umsonst tun Sehr sehr schade das ganze
Please keep all posts in English, not everyone understands German.
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Old 26 Aug 2019, 14:48
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Well, guys, I have nothing else to say except that I'm really sorry for the wait.

The thing is, yes, it does need a huge amount of works to actually get the CKEditor 5 to be able to embed to vBulletin while allowing people to edit the codes as less as possible. There are tons of codes that needed to be edited directly from the files, which we think is really not good at all for general forum owners.

Good news is, we have found several helpful developers as partners to get this sorted in a much better way. Some are currently not using this board, while one is available here, BetoPho, which is a great vBulletin developer that is working together with us on this one.

We decided to discard CKEditor 5 and use another editor, which is Summernote, while less advanced and powerful compared to CKEditor, but is guaranteed to keep this project alive, bringing more features to the editor, following up with modern coding standards, and most important, keeping it free of charge.

I'm asking BetoPho to post some updates so perhaps we will see some of it shortly.
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Old 26 Aug 2019, 17:26
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Please keep all posts in English, not everyone understands German.
It means in your language...

Too bad that no one here has the knowledge to adjust the CKEditor accordingly. He should not do it for nothing, that means I'm willing to pay for it and it should be not a problem. Sad to see that no one is willing to do that

--------------- Added 26 Aug 2019 at 17:32 ---------------

Originally Posted by CodeStache View Post
Well, guys, I have nothing else to say except that I'm really sorry for the wait.

The thing is, yes, it does need a huge amount of works to actually get the CKEditor 5 to be able to embed to vBulletin while allowing people to edit the codes as less as possible. There are tons of codes that needed to be edited directly from the files, which we think is really not good at all for general forum owners.

Good news is, we have found several helpful developers as partners to get this sorted in a much better way. Some are currently not using this board, while one is available here, BetoPho, which is a great vBulletin developer that is working together with us on this one.

We decided to discard CKEditor 5 and use another editor, which is Summernote, while less advanced and powerful compared to CKEditor, but is guaranteed to keep this project alive, bringing more features to the editor, following up with modern coding standards, and most important, keeping it free of charge.

I'm asking BetoPho to post some updates so perhaps we will see some of it shortly.
That's it what I have been waiting for and it sounds great How about a Paypal account where everyone can spend a amount of $'s to appreciate your work? I'm in for sure
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Old 26 Aug 2019, 19:29
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Hello,

I have some questions about that. What about plugin compatibility? For example Hide Hack or Post Thank You Hack. Can you restore the original style? https://ckeditor.com/cke4/addon/kama

Did you also consider ckeditor 4? Or is version 4 just as difficult to customize?

best regards
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Old 26 Aug 2019, 20:34
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Originally Posted by CodeStache View Post
Well, guys, I have nothing else to say except that I'm really sorry for the wait.

The thing is, yes, it does need a huge amount of works to actually get the CKEditor 5 to be able to embed to vBulletin while allowing people to edit the codes as less as possible. There are tons of codes that needed to be edited directly from the files, which we think is really not good at all for general forum owners.

Good news is, we have found several helpful developers as partners to get this sorted in a much better way. Some are currently not using this board, while one is available here, BetoPho, which is a great vBulletin developer that is working together with us on this one.

We decided to discard CKEditor 5 and use another editor, which is Summernote, while less advanced and powerful compared to CKEditor, but is guaranteed to keep this project alive, bringing more features to the editor, following up with modern coding standards, and most important, keeping it free of charge.

I'm asking BetoPho to post some updates so perhaps we will see some of it shortly.
vBulletin 5 hasn't even upgraded to CKEditor 5 yet because of how substantial the core code changes are between 4 and 5. It's not even coded in the same JS. CKE5 uses ES6.
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