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Old 06 Dec 2007, 14:49
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Originally Posted by attroll View Post
Sorry I did not mean this to turn into a debate. I was simply suggesting to one person that it is cheaper in the long run to purchase your own server rather then rent or lease a server and that is a fact. I am not going to debate this anymore.
the TCO of leased vs bought is fairly complicated as well tbh.

While it may be initially cheaper, in the long run more than likely it wouldn't be.
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Old 07 Dec 2007, 15:52
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I have a dedicated box at ASmallOrange.com. They are pretty darn good, and there prices are decent. They are growing pretty quickly, and I have noticed there support slowing dramatically. All the conversation about SoftLayer is intriguing.

Dedicated is the way to go. I have 7000 users and over a million posts, and I am not stressing my server at all.
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Old 07 Dec 2007, 22:41
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I have a dedicated server with TotalChoiceHosting.com -- they're pretty good.
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Old 08 Dec 2007, 20:48
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We use softlayer as well. Handles our forum fine, we're planning on picking up a second server shortly.
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Old 25 Dec 2007, 04:19
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I have a half-cabinet at a large co-lo facility. I am currently running seven servers on my network, four of which are directly related to the site's operation. the others are a firewall, backup server and mail server. I could do everything I am doing on two or three servers, but I like spreading things out.

Computing power wasn't the determining factor for me, when it came to making a hosting decision. My primary concern was bandwidth. I currently have a 10mbs pipe and I am using about 85% of it, at peak times. Of the two, computing power is a much cheaper commodity for a webhost to offer than bandwidth. In a colocated facility, I can contract the bandwidth directly from a big telecom provider and skip the middleman markup. I am averaging more than 60GB of data transfer a day, at this point. If I were paying for my bandwidth by the GB, I would be living in a refrigerator box. Eric
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Old 27 Dec 2007, 22:12
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If I were paying for my bandwidth by the GB, I would be living in a refrigerator box. Eric
Haha, I like the way you put it. Are you using 95th percentile billing?
I like your current setup... Collocation is the way to go. But I'm interested how you deal with the bandwidth...
I'm facing similar issues, so I would like to know more about your billing method.
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Old 27 Dec 2007, 22:41
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Haha, I like the way you put it. Are you using 95th percentile billing?
I like your current setup... Collocation is the way to go. But I'm interested how you deal with the bandwidth...
I'm facing similar issues, so I would like to know more about your billing method.
I'm not sure what 95th percentile billing is. I am paying a flat rate for the 10mbs pipe and for the cabinet. The throughput doesn't matter. If I max out the pipe though, my current setup isn't burtstable, which means some people are just going to hit a wall if I run out of bandwidth. Most colo ISP's will offer burstable capability on the connections they offer.

The facility I am in is very nice. I won't drop names, but there are some big fish hosting there. The security is like something out of a James Bond movie: Man traps, retina scans, sniffers capable of picking up the alcohol in a wet wipe, you name it. The place is great. Eric
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Old 27 Dec 2007, 22:50
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Aha, unmetered bandwidth. Can you PM me the website? Thanks.
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Old 27 Dec 2007, 23:58
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I host everything with valvehosting.com no problems so far!
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Old 28 Dec 2007, 05:12
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Originally Posted by EricGT View Post
I'm not sure what 95th percentile billing is. I am paying a flat rate for the 10mbs pipe and for the cabinet. The throughput doesn't matter. If I max out the pipe though, my current setup isn't burtstable, which means some people are just going to hit a wall if I run out of bandwidth. Most colo ISP's will offer burstable capability on the connections they offer.

The facility I am in is very nice. I won't drop names, but there are some big fish hosting there. The security is like something out of a James Bond movie: Man traps, retina scans, sniffers capable of picking up the alcohol in a wet wipe, you name it. The place is great. Eric
Yes could you PM me the name of you colo also.
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Old 01 Jan 2008, 21:34
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We moved from EV1 to Softlayer a couple of months ago. Dedicated server.
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Old 01 Jan 2008, 22:11
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So if you live in Germany, i think Hetzner is one of your best choice.

The support is amazing and the pricing is o.k.!

www.hetzner.de
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Old 02 Jan 2008, 00:04
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So if you live in Germany, i think Hetzner is one of your best choice.

The support is amazing and the pricing is o.k.!

www.hetzner.de
The pricing is certainly ok, but with that type of prices I always start to think if it is at all possible. I mean, compared to what I am paying at Softlayer this is about 150 euro's cheaper (with the current dollar - euro exchange rate).

Do they only offer AMD chips? No Intel?

And in a way it looks familiar, is this a hosting reseller, because they have the same way of presenting their dedicated server listings as another big german host does. Can't remember its name though.

For me it doesn't matter that much where the server is located not even in Germany (no language barrier for me :P). The only thing I want is a stable server with a fast, solid connection and enough bandwidth. So perhaps you can share some more information through PM or here?

Edit: forgot to mention this, do they offer 24/7 support?

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Old 02 Jan 2008, 19:06
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I switched over to Servint.net this past summer after a major meltdown at my previous host - so far I have been very pleased with the 24/7 support system. I have had to contact support a few times, and problems have always been handled promptly and competently. If you are on a VPS, upgrading your server can be done with practically no downtime at all. From what I can see on the internal support forums, there are quite a few customers running vBulletin boards.
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Old 02 Jan 2008, 22:10
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Originally Posted by attroll View Post
I purchased my owner server and here are the specs:

2x INTEL XEON 5345 2.33GHZ 8MB QUAD CORE, This is 8 cores
4x 2048MB Memory giving me a total of 8GB of memory
4x 250GB hard drive setup as raid 10 = 500GB total usage
1x 250GB as a backup drive
1x 250GB a spare drive

I did a colo with this server through colo4dallas. In my opinion if you are going to keep a big board up and running it is cheaper to buy your own server and colo it. Renting or leasing a server is putting money into someone else’s pocket. Over a period of one year with the price you pay for using someone else’s dedicated server you could have purchased your own server. I am paying if not lower then what everyone else paying because I own my server. If you going to buy a server of your own get something expandable so it will grow with you.
EXACTLY..

--------------- Added 02 Jan 2008 at 22:14 ---------------

Originally Posted by EricGT View Post
I have a half-cabinet at a large co-lo facility. I am currently running seven servers on my network, four of which are directly related to the site's operation. the others are a firewall, backup server and mail server. I could do everything I am doing on two or three servers, but I like spreading things out.

Computing power wasn't the determining factor for me, when it came to making a hosting decision. My primary concern was bandwidth. I currently have a 10mbs pipe and I am using about 85% of it, at peak times. Of the two, computing power is a much cheaper commodity for a webhost to offer than bandwidth. In a colocated facility, I can contract the bandwidth directly from a big telecom provider and skip the middleman markup. I am averaging more than 60GB of data transfer a day, at this point. If I were paying for my bandwidth by the GB, I would be living in a refrigerator box. Eric
You're doing 60GB of bandwidth over the public network per day with GlockTalk?

--------------- Added 02 Jan 2008 at 22:18 ---------------

I have a 1/2 cabinet at Colo4Dallas.. I've been to/through a number of other colocation facilitie and they don't even come close to Colo4Dallas's bandwidth, quality, DC design and total uptime..

I recommend that any "Big Board" that needs more than middle-class dedicated server look into colocation.. It has been worth the money and much more..

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