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Don't be stupid: "don't" ban
filburt1
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by filburt1 filburt1 is offline 07 Jul 2003

Let's say that there's an unusually high number of guests online at your forums. Some are shown up as Creating New Thread or Moderating Duties. There are some important things to know:

1. Any guests that look to be doing bad stuff like playing in the mod CP are not really. They are seeing a Permission Denied screen, but vB2 isn't smart enough to show that in WOL.
2. Never, ever ban a guest unless you're sure it's malicious! Why? Because web spiders such as Googlebot and Inktomi are also guests. Banning them accidently would be a form of suicide by idiocy because you wouldn't be listed on Google and other search engines.
3. If you have vB3, you can tell if a guest is a spider or not by viewing its username in WOL. This option might need to be turned on in the admin CP.

Before asking about a specific hostname or IP address, search Google. I guarantee you that somebody else has encountered that IP address or hostname before, and you can easily tell what it is.
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Old 08 Jul 2003, 03:35
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Good advice.
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Old 08 Jul 2003, 04:23
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It's good advice but I'm sorry, I can't stop laughing at the irony being displayed here

In this thread: http://www.vbulletin.org/forum/showt...threadid=54384 , you guys take issue with one of your members saying he wasn't stupid... then you guys start your own thread insinuating some of your members are stupid...

Surely there isn't room left for another foot in there...

~Regs.
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Old 08 Jul 2003, 04:40
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Your post is off-topic, but in the other thread, that member was rude in his response to us trying to help - no one said he was stupid. He was just plain rude. I'm not sure what the purpose of your post is in this thread which has nothing to do with the other one except to stir things up even more.
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Old 08 Jul 2003, 06:03
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Re: Don't be stupid: "don't" ban

Yesterday at 08:48 PM filburt1 said this in Post #1


Before asking about a specific hostname or IP address, search Google. I guarantee you that somebody else has encountered that IP address or hostname before, and you can easily tell what it is.
I use this site for IP addresses: http://www.arin.net/index.html
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Old 08 Jul 2003, 12:41
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This is good advice but i find the best way of banning users is Zzed's miserable users hack. It really is soooo effective

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Old 08 Jul 2003, 13:54
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Yesterday at 11:40 PM Erwin said this in Post #4
Your post is off-topic, but in the other thread, that member was rude in his response to us trying to help - no one said he was stupid. He was just plain rude. I'm not sure what the purpose of your post is in this thread which has nothing to do with the other one except to stir things up even more.
From the Simpsons:

Krusty (at a USO Comedy Tour): Saddam Hussein? They should call him So Damn Insane!
US Soldier #1: Hey! You're just fanning the flames of hatred!
Krusty: Boy, tough crowd! *summons some cheerleaders to perform on stage*
Solder #2: Hey, I can't look at that! I have a girlfriend back home!
Solder #3: This is an insult to our Muslim guests!

ROFL, I loved it
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Old 08 Jul 2003, 14:35
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Today at 05:54 AM filburt1 said this in Post #7
From the Simpsons:

Krusty (at a USO Comedy Tour): Saddam Hussein? They should call him So Damn Insane!
US Soldier #1: Hey! You're just fanning the flames of hatred!
Krusty: Boy, tough crowd! *summons some cheerleaders to perform on stage*
Solder #2: Hey, I can't look at that! I have a girlfriend back home!
Solder #3: This is an insult to our Muslim guests!

ROFL, I loved it
From the Simpsons:

Ralph:My cat's breathe smells like cat food.

ROFL!

If you are going to take issue with me supposedly going off-topic, you guys should practice what you preach.

And Erwin, that poster in the other thread was not rude until you told him you would make it a point not to help him in the future. Read it again... all he said was "I'm not stupid" and you and your clique had a kinipsion (sp?).

$10 says this thread gets closed about 2 minutes after you guys have your say

~Fanningtheflamesoflove.Canyoufeelit?
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Old 08 Jul 2003, 14:48
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This is a private matter between you and the parties involved. Do not make it public, and read the forum rules. If you weren't licensed, you may be banned already. If you're 34, respectfully act as such. I feel that Erwin acted appropriately under the circumstances.

(it's "breath", not "breathe")
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Old 08 Jul 2003, 15:31
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Thank you for that.

You are a true community leader.

If you weren't licensed, you may be banned already
Psssttttt, don't be stupid!

Irony at it's best,

~Regs.

PS. is this thread in the right section? The first post has nothing to do with hacking?


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Old 08 Jul 2003, 15:46
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Okay, I admit it, I was a bit rude myself in my response.

I have edited my post in that thread, and made a public apology to Ramsy. I will also PM him. I might have misunderstood his reply.

I apologize to you too Regs, if I offended, as well as to all members who may have felt I was unjust or unfair towards them. I sincerely ask for your forgiveness.

I hope we can leave this behind us, and move on.

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Old 08 Jul 2003, 16:17
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No worries Erwin, I just really thought that it was funny and ironic is all

Cheers,

~Regs.
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Old 09 Jul 2003, 15:42
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Random note: Inktomi is still on my site after a few days. I wonder what they're up to.
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Old 09 Jul 2003, 17:11
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Today at 03:42 PM filburt1 said this in Post #13
Random note: Inktomi is still on my site after a few days. I wonder what they're up to.
I've been wondering the same thing. Although the number of bots has reduced to just a few lately, they have been at my site for about 5 days.
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Old 01 Aug 2003, 14:46
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Inktomi was on my site for about 7 days, generating several hundreds MB of traffic every day. i was kind of scary at that time
but after these 7 days it stopped and now it only comes about a hundred times a days.
so, don't worry about it, they are just building up their database a little
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