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Yes there should be more sub categories 5 45.45%
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Old 30 Jun 2008, 00:51
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Breaking up the mod/hack categories

I hate the way VB.org has changed over the last couple of years. I am not referring to the styles. The styles are nice. I am referring to the categories for the mods/hacks. I liked it a lot better when the mods/hacks were broken down into more categories. As it is now you have two categories, Add-ons and Templates.

It would be a lot easier for searching and finding what one wants if you could break down the mod/hack categories like that use to be.

I would like to hear some feedback on this form the VB.org team and at the same time I am creating this as a poll to see how everyone else feels about this.
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Old 30 Jun 2008, 00:57
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Originally Posted by attroll View Post
I would like to hear some feedback on this form the VB.org team and at the same time I am creating this as a poll to see how everyone else feels about this.
They are sooo busy deciding which categories to merge in the near future
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Old 30 Jun 2008, 03:39
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You can still search mods in a particular "category" with the thread prefix system:
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Old 30 Jun 2008, 05:48
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Originally Posted by Danny.VBT View Post
You can still search mods in a particular "category" with the thread prefix system:
Wow, I never realized that. It is so small and kind of hidden. Maybe they need to somehow bring more attention to them somehow.

Thank you for pointing that out.
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Old 30 Jun 2008, 09:06
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2 Threads down... Mod Sub Cateogrys
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Old 30 Jun 2008, 13:50
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Personally, I believe that the most important thing would be to separate actual addons that DO something, from template changes disguised as addons, just because they do the template change automatically or have some settings. I had made a thead somewhere about that, but it wasn't implemented.
Also, I think it would be useful to separate the "hi! this is my first mod and doesn't do much, but..." kind of stuff, from the other addons, although I can't think of a practical way to do so (there are some people's first mods that are actually useful).
I hate it when people say that, but I believe that the quality of the mods has dropped a lot, compared to 1-2 years before, or it just seems that way. I think the solution is some kind of a separation between the crap* and the useful stuff...


*sorry if I offended anyone I just wanted to share my thoughts about this somewhere... Also, I am not implying that "my mods are good, others are crap", I have also released some crap mods from time to time Please, lets not get into a fight about this, but lets try to get something useful for the community out of it... :/
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Old 30 Jun 2008, 15:01
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Personally, I believe that the most important thing would be to separate actual addons that DO something, from template changes disguised as addons, just because they do the template change automatically or have some settings. I had made a thead somewhere about that, but it wasn't implemented.
Maybe i don't understand you, but what you describe is exactly how we have it on vB.org.
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Also, I think it would be useful to separate the "hi! this is my first mod and doesn't do much, but..." kind of stuff, from the other addons, although I can't think of a practical way to do so (there are some people's first mods that are actually useful).
Suggest an objective, fair, practical and usefull for all community members rule to govern such a thing and we will think about it. But that is almost impossible, so very unlikely to ever happen.

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I hate it when people say that, but I believe that the quality of the mods has dropped a lot, compared to 1-2 years before, or it just seems that way. I think the solution is some kind of a separation between the crap* and the useful stuff...
See above.
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Old 30 Jun 2008, 15:16
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Originally Posted by Michelle View Post
*sorry if I offended anyone I just wanted to share my thoughts about this somewhere... Also, I am not implying that "my mods are good, others are crap", I have also released some crap mods from time to time Please, lets not get into a fight about this, but lets try to get something useful for the community out of it... :/
No offense here. All my mods are crap.
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Old 30 Jun 2008, 15:56
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You have some good hacks, Boofo. Private message report, for example. I think everyone creates a bad hack in their coding career LOL.

Back on topic, I think the layout is fine the way it is.

PS: It still says 3.7.1 on the version drop down menu when creating a hack. vBulletin.org can't keep up
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Old 30 Jun 2008, 16:03
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PS: It still says 3.7.1 on the version drop down menu when creating a hack. vBulletin.org can't keep up
Missed that one, updated now.
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Old 30 Jun 2008, 16:35
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PS: It still says 3.7.1 on the version drop down menu when creating a hack. vBulletin.org can't keep up
Like many things, its a manual process that someone has to remember to do.
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Old 30 Jun 2008, 18:54
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Originally Posted by Marco van Herwaarden View Post
Maybe i don't understand you, but what you describe is exactly how we have it on vB.org.
Was this changed recently? I'm sure I can recall quite a lot mods that do stuff that can be done with just a template modification being in add-ons.
Originally Posted by Marco van Herwaarden View Post
Suggest an objective, fair, practical and usefull for all community members rule to govern such a thing and we will think about it. But that is almost impossible, so very unlikely to ever happen.

See above.
As I said above, I can't think of a solution for that, but I don't think the problem is unsolvable.
A quick idea that just popped into my head would be a voting system that every hack would have by default, and coders would vote whether it should go to the other category. Perhaps something like the "petition to change bug status to..." on project tools, only it would be "petition to change mod category to...".
Or perhaps the separation could be done the other way around, to have a category for "best hacks" and every mod after a number of votes (or rating-based) would be automatically moved to that category. Probably these aren't good ideas, I'm sure there are better ways to do this...
I guess though if it only bothers me, I'll just sit quietly in my corner...

@Boofo: Stop underestimating yourself please. Thanks.
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Old 30 Jun 2008, 19:03
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That was my unfortunate stab at American humor, Lea.
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Old 07 Jul 2008, 02:50
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Leave them like they are with two categories
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Old 07 Jul 2008, 03:19
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