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Old 07 Jul 2009, 19:53
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Goodbye vBulletin

Came across this article and they make some really good arguments

http://www.apaddedcell.com/goodbye-v...reasons-switch

Hopefully these issues will be addressed when vB 4 is released

By the way, I love vB and have not intention of changing
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Old 07 Jul 2009, 20:00
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Agreed, my argument against vbulletin is, why keep making things that are pointless for the system? Like Yes blogs and all that have been made, but why not move into the suggestion forum, and take a look and start making updates from there. They are trying to develop a newer software when people already enjoy this one. That is part of the reason most sites are using 3.7 versions instead of the newer versions.
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Old 07 Jul 2009, 20:13
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If the best argument for vBulletin is that it's overkill, then my argument is that you just don't know what to do with it

And if you're going to complain about the heavy load, optimize your design. If you want something simple and to the point and without room for expansion.. Then don't use vBulletin. Heh, just my two cents.

I agree they can work a bit on simplicity and less complication, but once you learn your way around, try to see if drupal can compare then.
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Old 07 Jul 2009, 20:25
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Originally Posted by Gio~Logist View Post
If the best argument for vBulletin is that it's overkill, then my argument is that you just don't know what to do with it

And if you're going to complain about the heavy load, optimize your design. If you want something simple and to the point and without room for expansion.. Then don't use vBulletin. Heh, just my two cents.

I agree they can work a bit on simplicity and less complication, but once you learn your way around, try to see if drupal can compare then.
Agreed but why make more complication when people now still have more then enough trouble with the simple things? They will not necessarily kill vbulletin but it will come to a extent of losing buyers and such. That is my opinion on it, people have spent days/weeks/months/years working on how its gotten today. And its a pretty big organization with tons of support but if they go ahead and make it more then it really is then they will guarantee lose tons of people due to making it like that. Yes you can customize and say what you want about that, and i do agree. BUT 40% of the people cant customize the software that there is now or that has been released. How do they expect people to do it with a even more difficult software? But hey we will see what happens.
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Old 07 Jul 2009, 21:11
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Originally Posted by Gio~Logist View Post
And if you're going to complain about the heavy load, optimize your design. If you want something simple and to the point and without room for expansion.. Then don't use vBulletin.
Care to write an in-depth vB optimization tutorial?
I'm sure many (including myself) would appreciate it

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Old 07 Jul 2009, 21:34
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This article compares vBulletin to Drupal, which is not too comparable.
If you compare vB to IPB, you know that vBulletin is much easier to use than IPB, although it has many functions.

Moreover,
this article was written two years ago and deals with the version 3.6.8, But I agree on the point that this may occur with vBulletin 4

However, if you want a complete forum, regardless of the software, there are many functions, so on the other hand, vBulletin also can have a long life ^^

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Old 07 Jul 2009, 22:24
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How can someone compare a cms system to a forum system? On a clean install of vb the performance is outstanding.But when you start adding "3rd party mods" then of course it's going to increase the load by a few.The same way when you do a clean install of a operating system.When installing a program either its going to take up ram or disk space.So what's the deal?

Man its like comparing to a volvo wagon to a bmw...
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Old 07 Jul 2009, 22:34
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Originally Posted by puertoblack2003 View Post
Man its like comparing to a volvo wagon to a bmw...
Thats more of a fitting comparison than I think you inntended
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Old 07 Jul 2009, 22:50
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Originally Posted by 1Unreal View Post
Thats more of a fitting comparison than I think you inntended

lol...hey i tried...
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Old 07 Jul 2009, 23:05
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Originally Posted by puertoblack2003 View Post
How can someone compare a cms system to a forum system? On a clean install of vb the performance is outstanding.But when you start adding "3rd party mods" then of course it's going to increase the load by a few.The same way when you do a clean install of a operating system.When installing a program either its going to take up ram or disk space.So what's the deal?

Man its like comparing to a volvo wagon to a bmw...
Totally agree with puertoblack
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Old 07 Jul 2009, 23:48
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I'm not leaving vbulletin, and I would never use durple..lol
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Old 08 Jul 2009, 00:30
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The more features the better. At least you have the option of disabling most of those features that people usually don't use like social groups and such.

Better to have too much than too little
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Old 08 Jul 2009, 00:37
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I think you guys are missing the point of drupal here. Drupal is only an example. vB is very outdated in comparison to alot of todays web software.
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Old 08 Jul 2009, 01:44
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I love vBulletin. The only bad reason you could say is the money maybe. But it is way worth it in my opinion. vBulletin is probably much more customizable then any other forum software. Yes it may be a bit confusing to some, but thats why we have vbulletin.com and vbulletin.org

Unreal- If your saying Drupal is only an example. Show a better example. There is no better forums software then vB in my opinion. If you think there is a better forum software then vB, please show me. Also how is it outdated? Yes maybe the default style is, but thats why there are millions of templates out there...
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Old 08 Jul 2009, 01:45
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The more features the better. At least you have the option of disabling most of those features that people usually don't use like social groups and such.

Better to have too much than too little

More isn't always better. I always believe in the old saying quality over quantity. Having the option to disabling is nothing more than an excuse.
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